[Histonet] Ventana vs Leica

Pamela Marcum mucram11 <@t> comcast.net
Tue Aug 24 14:47:57 CDT 2010



I totally agree and we have an Ultra, 2 XTs and 3 Benchmarks.  They are good systems that need to get cheaper and more flexible.  I am demoing the Bond III and love the ease of use, flexibility and cost savings, most.  Maria is right it is about 40% less to run than a Ventana. 



Pam Marcum 

AP Manager 

UAMS 

Little Rock, AR 





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maria Katleba" <Maria.Katleba <@t> stjoe.org> 
To: BSullivan <@t> shorememorial.org, "Jay Lundgren" <jaylundgren <@t> gmail.com> 
Cc: "histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:32:08 PM 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 

Hi Jay, 



I have the Ventana Benchmark XT...love it......BUT Leica is LESS EXPENSIVE!!! 



Reasons to buy Leica Bond: 



1.        Does IHC and ISH (yes- so does the Ventana) 

2.       Continuous feed (Ventana does NOT offer this!!!!) 

3.       Space saver, much smaller footprint than Benchmark 

4.       No wasted antibodies... 

5.       Not forced to buy EXPENSIVE prep kits either.... 

6.       Cost to run with reagents is about 40% less than Ventana- Yes! I did my own cost analysis 

7.       Won't blow tissue off the slide! 

8.       No where near the waste that Benchmark has!!! 



I went to the Leica Symposium in San Francisco last week. I was able to ask many grueling questions... They did a very good job of honestly addressing each one. 



Honestly, if I was asked right now to buy...it would be Leica! 



Regards, 

Maria 



Maria Katleba MS HT(ASCP) 

Pathology Dept. Mgr 

Queen of the Valley Medical Center 

1000 Trancas Street 

Napa CA 94558 

(707) 252-4411 x3689 direct 

(707) 226-4385 pager 

(707) 294-9229 cell- anytime 



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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:05 PM 
To: Jay Lundgren 
Cc: histonet; histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 



Jay, 

 I currently use the Ventana and am very pleased with the results I get. 

The only draw back is the cost to run the instrument. It can get quite 

pricey. They added space on the antibody wheel but took space away from the 

slide area. This has impacted our work flow greatly. We are however looking 

to purchase a second one. This one will have continual through put. That 

should help out with TAT. Hope this helps. 



Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.) 

AP Supervisor 

Shore Memorial Hospital 

609-653-3590 







             Jay Lundgren 

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                                       [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 

             08/24/2010 02:30 

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     I was wondering if anyone out there had experience with both the 

Ventana Ultra and the Leica Bond immunostainers.  I realize that most 

people 

have a personal preference as to brands, but I'm not looking for a 

knee-jerk 

opinion (LEICA RULZ!!!!11 or VENTANA FTW!!), just someone who has had 

actual 

experience working on a daily basis with both instruments.  If this is you, 

could you please tell me which you preferred and why. 

     I'm currently working for a facility in MT which has narrowed down its 

search to these two instruments.  No vendors please, they've already given 

their pitches. 



                                                         Thanks, 

                                                              Jay A. 

Lundgren M.S., HTL (ASCP) 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maria Katleba" <Maria.Katleba <@t> stjoe.org> 
To: BSullivan <@t> shorememorial.org, "Jay Lundgren" <jaylundgren <@t> gmail.com> 
Cc: "histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:32:08 PM 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 

Hi Jay, 



I have the Ventana Benchmark XT...love it......BUT Leica is LESS EXPENSIVE!!! 



Reasons to buy Leica Bond: 



1.        Does IHC and ISH (yes- so does the Ventana) 

2.       Continuous feed (Ventana does NOT offer this!!!!) 

3.       Space saver, much smaller footprint than Benchmark 

4.       No wasted antibodies... 

5.       Not forced to buy EXPENSIVE prep kits either.... 

6.       Cost to run with reagents is about 40% less than Ventana- Yes! I did my own cost analysis 

7.       Won't blow tissue off the slide! 

8.       No where near the waste that Benchmark has!!! 



I went to the Leica Symposium in San Francisco last week. I was able to ask many grueling questions... They did a very good job of honestly addressing each one. 



Honestly, if I was asked right now to buy...it would be Leica! 



Regards, 

Maria 



Maria Katleba MS HT(ASCP) 

Pathology Dept. Mgr 

Queen of the Valley Medical Center 

1000 Trancas Street 

Napa CA 94558 

(707) 252-4411 x3689 direct 

(707) 226-4385 pager 

(707) 294-9229 cell- anytime 



-----Original Message----- 
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of BSullivan <@t> shorememorial.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:05 PM 
To: Jay Lundgren 
Cc: histonet; histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 



Jay, 

 I currently use the Ventana and am very pleased with the results I get. 

The only draw back is the cost to run the instrument. It can get quite 

pricey. They added space on the antibody wheel but took space away from the 

slide area. This has impacted our work flow greatly. We are however looking 

to purchase a second one. This one will have continual through put. That 

should help out with TAT. Hope this helps. 



Beatrice Sullivan, HT(A.S.C.P.) HTL , AAS, CLSP(N.C.A.) 

AP Supervisor 

Shore Memorial Hospital 

609-653-3590 







             Jay Lundgren 

             <jaylundgren <@t> gmai 

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                                       [Histonet] Ventana vs Leica 

             08/24/2010 02:30 

             PM 

















     I was wondering if anyone out there had experience with both the 

Ventana Ultra and the Leica Bond immunostainers.  I realize that most 

people 

have a personal preference as to brands, but I'm not looking for a 

knee-jerk 

opinion (LEICA RULZ!!!!11 or VENTANA FTW!!), just someone who has had 

actual 

experience working on a daily basis with both instruments.  If this is you, 

could you please tell me which you preferred and why. 

     I'm currently working for a facility in MT which has narrowed down its 

search to these two instruments.  No vendors please, they've already given 

their pitches. 



                                                         Thanks, 

                                                              Jay A. 

Lundgren M.S., HTL (ASCP) 

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