[Histonet] Long and short biopsy runs with one processor

[kamal patel]

Bill,

I agree, the VIPs are good old workhorses!

You may be right about the single valve, not sure what
woulf happen if it dumped.

You know why Vision Biosystem and Leica split ?  This
will explain a lot.

If Peloris reliable, why can't they sell them -
they're giving them away !  Not a glowing testimonial.

I'll stay with the VIP. Do you know where to get one
of the old TP 1050's

KP
--- Bill Sinai <bills <@t> icpmr.wsahs.nsw.gov.au> wrote:

> 
> The Leica are lesss than two years old while the
> VIPs are both early 90s
> vintage but still perform well.  I have looked at
> the Peloris but my biggest
> worry was that there is only one pump for solutions
> and vacuum.  So that if
> either fail does that stop both chambers from being
> useable?  Otherwise a
> very sound idea which works.  I was involved in the
> very early stages of the
> development of this processor and they use similar
> components to the Leica
> TP 1050 as Vision built these for Leica until
> recently so reliability should
> not be a problem.
> 
> Bill Sinai
> Laboratory Manager
> Tissue Pathology, ICPMR
> Westmead NSW 2145
> Australia
> Ph 02 9845 7774
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kamal patel [mailto:kamalpatel9999 <@t> yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2005 8:04 AM
> To: Bill Sinai
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Long and short biopsy runs
> with one processor
> 
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Has your lab considered upgrading your processor(s)?
> We have a VIP as well, and an autostainer but
> recently
> looked into the Peloris from Vision Biosystems.
> Ameripath seems to have good things to say about it.
> 
> 
> --- Bill Sinai <bills <@t> icpmr.wsahs.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Roxanne,
> >
> > Most are the small GE biopsies >3mm in diamater or
> > "thin" slices of any
> > urgents >3mm thick.
> > Solution                    Time
> > Formalin                    0min
> > 70%ethanol               5min
> > 95%                         5min
> > 100%                       5min
> > 100%                       10min
> > 100%                       10min
> > Xylol                        5min
> > Xylol                        5min
> > Xylol                        10min
> > Wax                         5min
> > Wax                         10min
> > Wax                         10min
> >
> > Temperature ambient with Pressur/Vacuum on all
> > stations.
> >
> > Two Leica ASP300 and two VIP 3000
> > Bill Sinai
> > Laboratory Manager
> > Tissue Pathology, ICPMR
> > Westmead NSW 2145
> > Australia
> > Ph 02 9845 7774
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Roxanne Soto [mailto:godsgirlnow <@t> MSN.COM]
> >   Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2005 7:37 AM
> >   To: Bill Sinai
> >   Subject: Re: [Histonet] Long and short biopsy
> runs
> > with one processor
> >
> >
> >   What size is the tissue on the 2 hour run?  How
> > long is each station?
> > What kind of processor?  Do you use the vacuum?
> >   Roxanne
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Bill Sinai
> >     To: histonet (E-mail)
> >     Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:30 PM
> >     Subject: RE: [Histonet] Long and short biopsy
> > runs with one processor
> >
> >
> >
> >     Julia,
> >
> >     I agree with your philosophy about small runs.
> > We are a pathology
> >     department supporting a large teaching
> hospital
> > and an even larger area
> >     pathology service.  However, we also do a
> > considerable amount of private
> >     work for several endoscopy clinics in our
> > locality.
> >     The scenario you describe is very similar to
> > ours.
> >     We have the usual overnight run, usually
> 450-600
> > blocks with the large
> >     material in one processor and the smaller in
> > another.  We receive the
> >     endoscopy specimens anytime from 7:30am
> through
> > to 3:00pm each day, with
> > any
> >     pick ups after 6:00pm being processed the next
> > morning in a short run
> >     2-2.5hrs.  This means we can have at least two
> > runs per day of endoscopy
> >     specimens.  The endoscopy specimens from the
> > private clinics are about
> > 30%
> >     of our work and the TAT for these specimens is
> > >2 days from pick-up to
> > hard
> >     copy result to the clinician.
> >
> >     We also process renal biopsies several times
> per
> > day as well as the
> >     occasional urgent specimen.
> >
> >     Bill Sinai
> >     Laboratory Manager
> >     Tissue Pathology, ICPMR
> >     Westmead NSW 2145
> >     Australia
> >     Ph 02 9845 7774
> >
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From:
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >
> >
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On
> > Behalf Of Julia
> >     Dahl
> >     Sent: Thursday, 14 April 2005 4:13 AM
> >     To: Joyce.Rush <@t> sjmcmn.org;
> > Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >     Subject: RE: [Histonet] Long and short biopsy
> > runs with one processor
> >
> >
> >     Joyce -
> >
> >     First let me preface with my bias - I am a GI
> > pathologist (read small
> > biopsy
> >     material is what I live and breathe).
> >
> >     Long processor runs are great for standard
> > surgical material - but
> >     absolutely overprocess small pieces of tissue,
> > resulting in hard,
> >     dehydrated, difficult to cut little brittle
> > fragments.
> >
> >     The best approach that I've seen and used is
> to
> > examine your
> > "bottlenecks."
> >     The main bottlenecks are the points at which
> you
> > have lots to do in
> > front of
> >     you - with limited resource to do it (i.e. you
> > have 150 cassettes to
> > embed
> >     coming off of the processor at one time and
> ONE
> > embedding station.
> > That's a
> >     bottleneck.)
> >
> >     What time do you usually start your processor?
> > Say your processor
> > starts at
> >     10:00 p.m. with a standard 6 hour process run.
> > Your pathologists or
> > your
> >     PAs close the grossing stations at 6:00 p.m.
> and
> > load the processor -
> > and
> >     everything sits there for 4 hours (that's
> 
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