[Histonet] Processing Schedule- ASP-6025

[Greg Dobbin]

Fascinating Tony!
We don’t typically leave them in the warming drawer any longer than a
couple of hours, but maybe this particular tonsil was left linger for some
reason and no one thought anything of it?! Something to consider for sure!
Thanks.
Greg

On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Henwood (SCHN) <
tony.henwood at health.nsw.gov.au> wrote:

> Processing seems adequate.
>
> After processing, how long do they sit in the embedding centre block
> holding tank before embedding?
>
> We found that quite a few antigens were affected when we stored control
> tonsil in the embedding centre (dry) at 60oC for a few days before
> embedding. In summary:
>
> Antibody        Clone           Dried (Normal = 3+)
> CD4             4B12            0
> BOB-1           TG14            0
> CD3             LN10            1+
> CD79a           JCB117          1+
> Oct-2           Oct-207 1+
> CD8             4B11            2+
> CD20            L26             3+
>
> So CD20 was unaffected but this process affected most of the antigens with
> some losing antigen recognition by the antibody (eg CD4 and BOB-1).
>
> Another one of those pre-analytical issues we need to consider.
>
> And yes I am writing this up for submission!
>
>
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> From: Greg Dobbin via Histonet [mailto:histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
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> Subject: [Histonet] Processing Schedule- ASP-6025
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> Hello  colleagues,
> I recently stained (IHC) a section of normal tonsil from another facility
> with p16 and the resulting stain was better than the same stain on a
> section of my labs own normal tonsil control.
>
> This has led us to question our processing schedule. I am not concerned
> with our fixation because we fix everything for at least 24 hours in 10%
> formalin (commercially prepared) prior to processing.
>
> Does anything jump out at you as being a potential red flag in the
> following overnight protocol?
>
>    - Formalin 15 mins; RT
>    - Processing water 1 min; RT
>    - ETOH 70% 30 mins; 35C
>    - ETOH 80% 30 mins; 35C
>    - ETOH 95% 30 mins; 35C
>    - ETOH 100% 30 mins; 35C
>    - ETOH 100% 40 mins; 35C
>    - ETOH 100% 60 mins; 35C
>    - Xylene  60 mins; 35C
>    - Xylene  60 mins; 35C
>    - Xylene  60 mins; 35C
>    - Paraffin 60 mins; 57C; vacuum
>    - Paraffin 60 mins; 57C; vacuum
>    - Paraffin 60 mins; 57C; vacuum
>
> Our formalin is changed after every 1100 cassettes and the alcohol,
> xylenes and paraffins are managed similarly by the instrument. Our specimen
> mix is a little of everything (skins, GIs, breasts, needle cores, gall
> bladders, gyne, etc).
>
> The one unknown (so far) in this story, is how the tonsil from the other
> laboratory was handled (ie the fixative used and for how long-I am assuming
> 10% formalin).
>
> Obviously, many of you will have schedules that differ from this one, in
> any number of ways, but what I am looking for from you is your opinion: *is
> there anything about this schedule that is particularly concerning?* Thank
> you, Greg
>
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