[Histonet] FW: cutting a 5um frozen section from a 50um section of brain

[Jacox, Robert A.]

I just made the aluminum temple from a 1/2 inch 6x6 piece on aluminum from Home Depot. With the sheet you will este,Italy make it look like a clock face using a sharpe. Why you want to do this is i found the aluminum plates have enough variance that if I did not always use the same side it changed the plain of my cut. The key is to make sure once you established correctly you can repeat everything exactly the same.

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On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Dessasau III, Evan <eddessa at emory.edu<mailto:eddessa at emory.edu>> wrote:

Hi Robert, thank you for your reply.  So you froze the section on the aluminum with the “clock face” and then put this inverted, in the Microm 560 mold?  ours is an older unit that has been around and not all the parts came with it so I don’t  have the 90 degree block chuck.  Is this the fixed head you speak of?
I love the idea of a control block for cutting I image you mean.  I have been putting a layer of OCT on top of the block/section after I pop it out of the mold.  I use this “extra” OCT to orientate my x-y.
Robert how thick was the section you were trying to cut?
I’m wondering if anyone knows if samples move about as the OCT freezes?
Thank you again,
E-van
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] FW: cutting a 5um frozen section from a 50um section of brain


Evan,



I had a similar project and did after a lot of trial and error was able to get consistent results. The way I approached it was the following. There are several variables that need to be accounted for.

1.       Is the tissue cut on the plain I want to see (this has to be yes)

2.       Mounting the section to a known flat surface

3.       Attaching the section to the chuck in a consistent manner

4.       The cutting angle of the specimen head

5.       The placement of the knife

6.       The accurate insertion of the knife/blade



For point 2 I used a flat piece of aluminum and drew clock face marks on it. This way I knew I was consistently attaching the section on a known plain. Point 3 I used some embedding molds from the Microm 560 to act as a known way to attach the specimen. The molds end up making a bullet shaped sample so it was easy to keep orientation (full disclosure I would for Thermo (Microm) I would guess any consistent type mold will do). Point 4 I went from an adjustable head to a fixed head on the cryostat. Points 5 and 6 – I created a control block that I cut prior to beginning to cut and any time I moved the knife holder or changed the blade. For this I saved old 100 micron sections and would embed one using the Point 1-4 methodology and verify the plain.



I hope this helps and let me know if you need further assistance



Robert Jacox

Commercial Marketing Manager

Anatomic Pathology



Thermo Fisher Scientific

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Subject: [Histonet] FW: cutting a 5um frozen section from a 50um section of brain



Hi Histonet , I have been trying to cut a FLAT 4 to 10 um frozen section from 50um sections of brain.  Every time I think I have the tissue flat the sections are never in the same plane.  I found a wonderful book in pdf format(A Practical Guide to Frozen Section Techniques, Stephen R. Peters) online with lots of wonderful tips but I'm having no luck implementing the tips.  Has anyone ever tried this?  Any help is GREATLY appreciated.

Thank you,

E-van



E-van D. Dessasau, III, HTL(ASCP)cm

Supervisor, Histology Division of Pathology Emory University Yerkes NPRC Main Center Rm. 2122

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Atlanta, GA. 30329

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