[Histonet] Blood donations for money

[Bob Richmond]

Elizabeth, I certainly wasn't talking about volunteer platelet donors, a
totally different, very dedicated bunch. I would continue to observe that
plasma centers are located in fairly sleazy parts of town.

I wish I could continue to be a donor - whole blood, because I'm a rare
donor (group O, and e Fya K neg) - but I'm on lifetime warfarin for an
aortic valve prosthesis. I even went and argued with the medical director
of my local donor center about it, but he said no very firmly.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Elizabeth Chlipala <liz at premierlab.com>
wrote:

> I would contact your local department of public health or your states
> governing agency for hazardous/biological waste - for example in Colorado
> our hazardous waste is controlled by the Colorado Department of Health.
> You should be able to register a complaint through them.
>
> On a personal note and no Bob I'm not calling you out.  Not all plasma
> donors are sleazy I personally have donated over 50 units of platelets
> where I used to work and was not paid for any of it.  I did get to watch TV
> or a movie for a couple hours since I donated during work hours (I would
> actually do paperwork when I was on the machine).  I would even donate for
> specific patients when necessary, apparently some patients did well with my
> platelets.  It was really fascinating, a small suburban 400 bed hospital
> with a very active blood bank, I learned a lot, it was a great experience
> overall.
>
> Liz
>
> Elizabeth A. Chlipala, BS, HTL(ASCP)QIHC
> Premier Laboratory, LLC
> PO Box 18592
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frazier, John via Histonet [mailto:histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> ]
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:58 AM
> To: Bob Richmond
> Cc: Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Blood donations for money
>
> Under FDA guidelines plasmapheresis donor are held to a higher standard
> than red cell downers when it comes to qualifications.
> Plasmapheresis donors are required take a physical once a year by a
> registered nurse.
> Each plasma donor center must a medical director that can only be filled
> by a licensed physician. They are required to be on site minimum 20 hours a
> month to review laboratory results donor records, physical reviews, and
> consult any donors that were rejected due to positive lab test results.
> There are many more FDA, foreign government German Health Ministry, and
> internal company standards that each donor center must abide by. If not
> they can receive 483's which is a citation, warning letters or consent
> decree.
> Each donor is required to donate a minimum of two times with negative test
> results before the units can be put into production. I'll plasma is tested
> for viral markers, total protein, AST(liver test), West Nile, parvovirus,
> sexually transmitted diseases and many other lab test. This lab tests are
> designed to not only monitor the integrity of the plasma pool but also the
> donor's health.
> Prior to the plasma being put into production it goes through a series of
> detergents, cooling and heating, Ultraviolet light that will kill any
> viral, bacterial and or fungal material.
> To my knowledge there has not been any diseases acquired by recipients of
> the pharmaceutical derivatives from plasma donors since the 1990's.
>
> These donors may be paid but that is the only way to meet the huge supply
> of plasma needed to make all the different plasma based products. IVIG,
> RhoGam, CVM immunoglobulin, Albumin, *Alpha-1 Antitrypsin*
>
> *Here is a link to the insight of plasma donations and the governing
> bodies*
>
> http://www.donatingplasma.org/
>
>
> from my iPhone
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 23, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Bob Richmond <rsrichmond at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jorge A. Santiago-Blay, PhD asks about blood donation for money. I suppose
> he's in the US. I don't think there's any paid donation of whole blood in
> the US any more. This is probably a plasmapheresis center, where people
> donate twice a week. The red blood cells are returned to the donor. Two
> cycles of this are usually done at a session.
>
> Many, though not all, plasma donors are pretty sleazy people. I'd ask the
> plasma center first, then complain to local authorities about it. Most of
> these plasma centers are franchise operations, and you could complain to
> their managers also.
>
> Most plasma products (derivatives) can be sterilized so they don't
> transmit viruses. Or so we hope.
>
> Bob Richmond
> Samurai Pathologist
> Maryville TN
> ******************************************
>
> Close to where I leave, there is an establishment for blood "donations".
>
> Apparently, the establishment pays per donation. I hypothesize that the
>
> money explains why the place is generally "hopping" (today, ca. 8:30AM,
>
> there were ca, 25-30 cars parked in front of the establishment; Sunday
>
> mornings, same story). Regularly, I see trash out of the store (incl. blood
>
> splatter marks on the sidewalk, gauze, etc.).
>
>
> Can someone tell me:
>
> 1. Where can one find information of the internal operations of
>
> establishments like this?
>
>
> 2. Where can one report concerns about establishments like this?
>
>
> 3. More broadly, how can anyone *scientifically* tell whether the blood
>
> "donated" at those (or any other) establishments is "safe" for use by other
>
> humans?
>
>
> Jorge A. Santiago-Blay, PhD
>
> blaypublishers.com
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