[Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

Tue Mar 24 20:46:06 CDT 2015

I tried to teach the starving graduate students the same things, with
similar results  :-)

And it's not even Friday.....

Paula

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 5:05 PM, William J. O'Connor III <b427297 <@t> aol.com>
wrote:

> I have monkeys where I work, cynos.  We tried to train them to not bite
> our fingers off - I wouldn't even try to teach them to use a microtome.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Ann Jones <mjones <@t> metropath.com>
> To: Stedman, Nancy <Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com>; Mark Turner
> <mturner <@t> CSILaboratories.com>; Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com>
> Cc: histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>; Timothy Morken <
> Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsf.edu>; Jennifer MacDonald <JMacDonald <@t> mtsac.edu>;
> Marcum, Pamela A <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2015 4:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
>
>  Thanks Dr. Stedman! Good to hear!
> Michael Ann
>
>
>
>
> On 3/24/15, 3:22 PM,
> "Stedman, Nancy" <Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com>
> wrote:
>
> >As a pathologist
> I'd like to apologize for all the pathologists who have
> >made comments like
> this.. forget trained monkeys and dogs, most (all?)
> >pathologists cannot cut
> slides either, at least not slides they'd want to
> >try to read.   I know I
> can't.
> >
> >-Nancy Stedman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Mark
> >Turner
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:26 PM
> >To: Paula
> Sicurello; Michael Ann Jones
> >Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy
> Morken; Jennifer
> >MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A
> >Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in
> Histotechnology
> >
> >I once worked with a Pathologist who said she was in a
> group meeting of
> >other pathologists when one of them blurted out that a
> trained monkey
> >could cut slides.  My pathologist, having had the opportunity
> to review
> >some cases from the offender's laboratory, promptly replied "Yes,
> and
> >with the quality of your slides it looks like you did just that."
> She
> >shut down the other pathologist really quickly, and as far as I know,
> we
> >never received another case to review from him.  My pathologist was
> not
> >about to let that kind of arrogance stand.  She was one of the
> best
> >bosses I ever had!
> >
> >Mark Turner,  Ph.D., HT(ASCP)QIHC
> >Manager,
> Histology/IHC
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Paula
> >Sicurello
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:47 PM
> >To:
> Michael Ann Jones
> >Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald;
> Marcum, Pamela
> >A; Timothy Morken
> >Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in
> Histotechnology
> >
> >I've had more than one pathologist tell me a monkey could
> do my job.
> >Though one of them said it with a smile and added "a very highly
> skilled
> >and well trained monkey", he was one of the few who knew
> better.
> >
> >How many of us monkeys have trained the whining and complaining
> residents
> >how to do things correctly?
> >
> >Paula
> >
> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at
> 12:29 PM, Michael Ann Jones <mjones <@t> metropath.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> OMG Pam~ our
> pathologist said the exact same thing to us when we
> >> started our Grossing
> training.
> >> Sheesh. . .
> >> Michael Ann
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/24/15, 11:52
> AM, "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> >That was nicer than
> the pathologist who told me years ago, "any
> >> >monkey could be trained to do
> my job".  I basically did not take the
> >> >job I was interviewing for at the
> time.  At least the next interview
> >> >went a lot better and I did take the
> job.
> >> >
> >> >Pam
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >>
> >[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
> >> >Sanders,
> Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM
> >> >To:
> Sue; Timothy Morken
> >> >Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer
> MacDonald
> >> >Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> >> >
> >> >I agree,
> BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>as long as many pathologists think you can
> >> >teach any
> trained dog how to section histology will never have the
> >> >recognition those
> of us that have studied and trained deserve.
> >> >
> >> >-----Original
> Message-----
> >> >From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >>
> >[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue
> >> >Sent:
> Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM
> >> >To: Timothy Morken
> >> >Cc:histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
> >> >Subject: Re:
> [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> >> >
> >> >This is a fight that we continue to
> have with hospital administration.
> >> >In my opinion histologists are just as
> important and needed as MT.
> >> >Even though there is an increase in automation
> in pathology the hands
> >> >on of a histologists is most important.  The fact
> that hospital still
> >> >consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not
> more of us.
> >> >It is quite frustrating.
> >> >
> >> >Sue
> >> >TJUH
> >>
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