[Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

Tue Mar 24 19:06:01 CDT 2015

I have monkeys where I work, cynos.  We tried to train them to not bite our fingers off - I wouldn't even try to teach them to use a microtome.

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From: Michael Ann Jones <mjones <@t> metropath.com>
To: Stedman, Nancy <Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com>; Mark Turner <mturner <@t> CSILaboratories.com>; Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com>
Cc: histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>; Timothy Morken <Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsf.edu>; Jennifer MacDonald <JMacDonald <@t> mtsac.edu>; Marcum, Pamela A <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>
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Thanks Dr. Stedman! Good to hear!
Michael Ann

On 3/24/15, 3:22 PM,
"Stedman, Nancy" <Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com>
wrote:

>As a pathologist
I'd like to apologize for all the pathologists who have
>made comments like
this.. forget trained monkeys and dogs, most (all?)
>pathologists cannot cut
slides either, at least not slides they'd want to
>try to read.   I know I
can't.
>
>-Nancy Stedman 
>
>    
>
>
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>From:
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On Behalf Of Mark
>Turner
>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:26 PM
>To: Paula
Sicurello; Michael Ann Jones
>Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy
Morken; Jennifer
>MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A
>Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in
Histotechnology
>
>I once worked with a Pathologist who said she was in a
group meeting of
>other pathologists when one of them blurted out that a
trained monkey
>could cut slides.  My pathologist, having had the opportunity
to review
>some cases from the offender's laboratory, promptly replied "Yes,
and
>with the quality of your slides it looks like you did just that." 
She
>shut down the other pathologist really quickly, and as far as I know,
we
>never received another case to review from him.  My pathologist was
not
>about to let that kind of arrogance stand.  She was one of the
best
>bosses I ever had!
>
>Mark Turner,  Ph.D., HT(ASCP)QIHC
>Manager,
Histology/IHC
> 
>
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On Behalf Of Paula
>Sicurello
>Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:47 PM
>To:
Michael Ann Jones
>Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald;
Marcum, Pamela
>A; Timothy Morken
>Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in
Histotechnology
>
>I've had more than one pathologist tell me a monkey could
do my job.
>Though one of them said it with a smile and added "a very highly
skilled
>and well trained monkey", he was one of the few who knew
better.
>
>How many of us monkeys have trained the whining and complaining
residents
>how to do things correctly?
>
>Paula
>
>On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at
12:29 PM, Michael Ann Jones <mjones <@t> metropath.com>
>wrote:
>
>> OMG Pam~ our
pathologist said the exact same thing to us when we
>> started our Grossing
training.
>> Sheesh. . .
>> Michael Ann
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/24/15, 11:52
AM, "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >That was nicer than
the pathologist who told me years ago, "any
>> >monkey could be trained to do
my job".  I basically did not take the
>> >job I was interviewing for at the
time.  At least the next interview
>> >went a lot better and I did take the
job.
>> >
>> >Pam
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From:
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>>
>[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
>> >Sanders,
Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM
>> >To:
Sue; Timothy Morken
>> >Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer
MacDonald
>> >Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
>> >
>> >I agree,
BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>as long as many pathologists think you can
>> >teach any
trained dog how to section histology will never have the
>> >recognition those
of us that have studied and trained deserve.
>> >
>> >-----Original
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>> >From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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>[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue
>> >Sent:
Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM
>> >To: Timothy Morken
>> >Cc:
histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
>> >Subject: Re:
[Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
>> >
>> >This is a fight that we continue to
have with hospital administration.
>> >In my opinion histologists are just as
important and needed as MT.
>> >Even though there is an increase in automation
in pathology the hands
>> >on of a histologists is most important.  The fact
that hospital still
>> >consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not
more of us.
>> >It is quite frustrating.
>> >
>> >Sue
>> >TJUH
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