[Histonet] Special Stainer

Blake Taylor bcdukes <@t> lexhealth.org
Tue Jan 20 12:27:57 CST 2015


We previously had the Ventana Nexus which was excellent, preferred it greatly over Dako but now we moved to the Ventana Benchmark Special Stainer and it has been nothing but trouble.  I honestly at this point would not recommend the Benchmark. It needs improvement.

Blake Taylor
Surgical Pathology Supervisor

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   1. RE: Recycling alcohol (Marcum, Pamela A)
   2. Decon HydeAway (Vickroy, James)
   3. RE: specials stainers (Jeffrey Robinson)
   4. Re: Recycling alcohol (Esther C Peters)
   5. FW: Iron control tissue or blocks (Montana, Maria)
   6. Re: Re: Recycling alcohol (Pam Marcum)
   7. RE: specials stainers (Marcum, Pamela A)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 14:22:17 +0000
From: "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol
To: "Horn, Hazel V" <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org>, "'Vickroy, James'"
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Hazel is correct if you use the pure ethanol the paperwork is horrible and the limits on what should be in the lab are very low for a normal Histology Lab.  Reagent alcohol is the best way to go as it has methanol and isopropanol in it so it is undrinkable and therefore not under the same ATF rules of usage.  

Pam Marcum
UAMS 

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Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol

With Ethyl alcohol you will need a license and will have to keep records.  With reagent grade alcohol none of that is necessary.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
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Subject: [Histonet] Recycling alcohol

We are planning to recycle alcohol in the new lab I am working with.   Previously I always used an alcohol blend such as the "Flex" products.  However at this new lab we are going to only process biopsies so I believe I can get by using ethanol and not a blend.   We will be getting our alcohol from Thermofisher.  Can anyone tell me which alcohols they are using for dehydration?  Reagent alcohol or ethyl alcohol.  Obviously we will make our own concentrations from a 100%.

Jim

Jim Vickroy
Histology Manager
Springfield Clinic, Main Campus, East Building
1025 South 6th Street
Springfield, Illinois  62703
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 15:10:08 +0000
From: "Vickroy, James" <jvickroy <@t> SpringfieldClinic.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Decon HydeAway
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Anybody using Decon HydeAway for neutralization of 10% NBF.  If so what are your experiences and do you dispose of the product (gel) into your solid biological  waste for disposal?

In the past I have used Formalex or Formalex Green.  This material looks cheaper but cheaper is not always better of course.

Jim

Jim Vickroy
Histology Manager
Springfield Clinic, Main Campus, East Building
1025 South 6th Street
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:31:24 +0000
From: Jeffrey Robinson <JRobinson <@t> pathology-associates.com>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: specials stainers
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I have the Leica multistainer.  We use it for H & E staining only.  When we attempted to set it up for Special Stains, all of the silver stains had to be made up either each run or each day.  Too much hassle.

Jeff Robinson, HT, HTL
Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA
jrobinson <@t> pathology-associates.com

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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'Mitchell, Janice A'; 'histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] RE: specials stainers

Oops   -  I had IHC on the brain and didn't pay close attention!

Leica does not have a dedicated special stainer  - but they have a multistainer which stains specials as well as H&E. Is too slow in a busy lab tho.

I very much recommend the DAKO Artisan..

It is Monday on Tuesday... right?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 8:59 AM
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Subject: RE: specials stainers

I recommend Leica.

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
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Subject: [Histonet] specials stainers

Good Morning,
We are looking for an automatic stainer for special stains.   Ventana vs Dako?  Thoughts?
Thanks for any input, Janice Mitchell
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:35:39 +0000
From: Esther C Peters <epeters2 <@t> gmu.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Recycling alcohol
To: "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>, "Horn, Hazel V"
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American Mastertech Scientific makes Reagent Alcohol with just ethanol and isopropanol. 

Esther C. Peters, Ph.D.
Term Associate Professor
Environmental Science & Policy
George Mason University
4400 University Drive, MS 5F2
Fairfax, VA 22030-4444
Office: David King Hall, Room 3050
Phone: 703-993-3462
Fax: 703-993-1066
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To: Horn, Hazel V; 'Vickroy, James'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol

Hazel is correct if you use the pure ethanol the paperwork is horrible and the limits on what should be in the lab are very low for a normal Histology Lab.  Reagent alcohol is the best way to go as it has methanol and isopropanol in it so it is undrinkable and therefore not under the same ATF rules of usage.

Pam Marcum
UAMS

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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:05 PM
To: 'Vickroy, James'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol

With Ethyl alcohol you will need a license and will have to keep records.  With reagent grade alcohol none of that is necessary.

Hazel Horn
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax
hornhv <@t> archildrens.org
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Subject: [Histonet] Recycling alcohol

We are planning to recycle alcohol in the new lab I am working with.   Previously I always used an alcohol blend such as the "Flex" products.  However at this new lab we are going to only process biopsies so I believe I can get by using ethanol and not a blend.   We will be getting our alcohol from Thermofisher.  Can anyone tell me which alcohols they are using for dehydration?  Reagent alcohol or ethyl alcohol.  Obviously we will make our own concentrations from a 100%.

Jim

Jim Vickroy
Histology Manager
Springfield Clinic, Main Campus, East Building
1025 South 6th Street
Springfield, Illinois  62703
Office:  217-528-7541, Ext. 15121
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 10:36:02 -0600
From: "Montana, Maria" <mtmontana <@t> primecare.org>
Subject: [Histonet] FW: Iron control tissue or blocks
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Hi, Histoneters,

I was wondering if anyone out there has some good Fe control tissue or blocks that you would be willing to trade for. We have Amyloid tissue, if you are interested.

Thanks,

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:39:40 +0000 (UTC)
From: Pam  Marcum <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Recycling alcohol
To: Esther C Peters <epeters2 <@t> gmu.edu>
Cc: Hazel V Horn <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org>,	James' 'Vickroy
	<jvickroy <@t> SpringfieldClinic.com>, "Marcum,	Pamela"
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The issue is of isoprpanol and/or methanol is really not the point.?? The ATF requires the alcohol to be unfit for human consumption so either or both of these solutions in ethanol will render it dangerous and undrinkable.?? If you do not have one or both of these in the ethanol it is taxed and therefore very expensive and time consuming. 
?? 
Pam 

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To: "Pamela A Marcum" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>, "Hazel V Horn" <HornHV <@t> archildrens.org>, "James' 'Vickroy" <jvickroy <@t> SpringfieldClinic.com>, "Histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu> 
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Subject: [Histonet] Re: Recycling alcohol 

American Mastertech Scientific makes Reagent Alcohol with just ethanol and isopropanol. 

Esther C. Peters, Ph.D. 
Term Associate Professor 
Environmental Science & Policy 
George Mason University 
4400 University Drive, MS 5F2 
Fairfax, VA 22030-4444 
Office: David King Hall, Room 3050 
Phone: 703-993-3462 
Fax: 703-993-1066 
e-mail: epeters2 <@t> gmu.edu 
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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 9:22 AM 
To: Horn, Hazel V; 'Vickroy, James'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol 

Hazel is correct if you use the pure ethanol the paperwork is horrible and the limits on what should be in the lab are very low for a normal Histology Lab. ??Reagent alcohol is the best way to go as it has methanol and isopropanol in it so it is undrinkable and therefore not under the same ATF rules of usage. 

Pam Marcum 
UAMS 

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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 1:05 PM 
To: 'Vickroy, James'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Recycling alcohol 

With Ethyl alcohol you will need a license and will have to keep records. ??With reagent grade alcohol none of that is necessary. 

Hazel Horn 
Supervisor of Histology/Autopsy/Transcription Anatomic Pathology Arkansas Children's Hospital 
1 Children's Way | Slot 820| Little Rock, AR 72202 
501.364.4240 direct | 501.364.1241 fax 
hornhv <@t> archildrens.org 
archildrens.org 





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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:28 PM 
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] Recycling alcohol 

We are planning to recycle alcohol in the new lab I am working with. ?? Previously I always used an alcohol blend such as the "Flex" products. ??However at this new lab we are going to only process biopsies so I believe I can get by using ethanol and not a blend. ?? We will be getting our alcohol from Thermofisher. ??Can anyone tell me which alcohols they are using for dehydration? ??Reagent alcohol or ethyl alcohol. ??Obviously we will make our own concentrations from a 100%. 

Jim 

Jim Vickroy 
Histology Manager 
Springfield Clinic, Main Campus, East Building 
1025 South 6th Street 
Springfield, Illinois ??62703 
Office: ??217-528-7541, Ext. 15121 
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 16:51:22 +0000
From: "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: specials stainers
To: "'Jeffrey Robinson'" <JRobinson <@t> pathology-associates.com>,
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We use our Leica H&E stainer for PAS only as it is the fastest way we have found to get 30 to 40 bone marrow PAS slides out before 6:30AM every morning.  Otherwise it was just too cumbersome and the Dako does a great job on all routine stains.  We only do the neuro stains and Copper by hand now.  The Dako Copper kit is a different procedure and our pathologist like so it can't be used.  The PAS is just too slow for the turnaround we need daily.  The stain is great!!

Pam Marcum
UAMS 

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Subject: [Histonet] RE: specials stainers

I have the Leica multistainer.  We use it for H & E staining only.  When we attempted to set it up for Special Stains, all of the silver stains had to be made up either each run or each day.  Too much hassle.

Jeff Robinson, HT, HTL
Sierra Pathology Lab, Clovis, CA
jrobinson <@t> pathology-associates.com

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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:13 AM
To: 'Mitchell, Janice A'; 'histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
Subject: [Histonet] RE: specials stainers

Oops   -  I had IHC on the brain and didn't pay close attention!

Leica does not have a dedicated special stainer  - but they have a multistainer which stains specials as well as H&E. Is too slow in a busy lab tho.

I very much recommend the DAKO Artisan..

It is Monday on Tuesday... right?

Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
678-843-7376 Phone
678-843-7831 Fax
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Subject: RE: specials stainers

I recommend Leica.

Joyce Weems
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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mitchell, Janice A
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:43 AM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] specials stainers

Good Morning,
We are looking for an automatic stainer for special stains.   Ventana vs Dako?  Thoughts?
Thanks for any input, Janice Mitchell
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