[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 135, Issue 9

Patti McDavid Pmcdavid <@t> mhg.com
Mon Feb 9 13:24:37 CST 2015


Re: Frozen Sections
The histo techs at our facility help our pathologist(s) as well as our Pathologist Assistant with the cutting and staining of frozen sections.

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Today's Topics:

   1. TRAP staining for ffpe sections (abtdhu <@t> gmail.com)
   2. decalcifying sheep knee joints (abtdhu <@t> gmail.com)
   3. Cryosectioning undecal none (abtdhu <@t> gmail.com)
   4. Why when I submit my answer to the list an email with     Korea
      language pop up? (abtdhu <@t> gmail.com)
   5. Re: Frozen Sections (histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com)
   6. RE: it happened again - the foreign reply (Joelle Weaver)
   7. RE: CLIA Inspection Question (Joelle Weaver)
   8. Re: CLIA Inspection Question (Garreyf)
   9. Re: Frozen Sections (Bob Richmond)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:16:58 -0500
From: abtdhu <@t> gmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] TRAP staining for ffpe sections
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Hi,
I make staining solution for TRAP staining. Used once Sigma kit, but unsatisfactory. You may Google for TRAP protocol online. It must be there and easier than the kit.
Dorothy Hu
Manager of histology and histomorphometry operation HSDM



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:26:28 -0500
From: abtdhu <@t> gmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] decalcifying sheep knee joints
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Hi,
You may use formic acid instead of EDTA, it will be much fast and give you sharp image of Safranin O. You can also do IHC.
Dorothy Hu
HSDM

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:34:13 -0500
From: abtdhu <@t> gmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] Cryosectioning undecal none
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Hi,
We are using Kawamoto's Section-Lab Co. Ltd. products now. It is better than cryojane. Check Kawamoto's paper online to get protocol. Good luck.

Dorothy Hu
HSDM

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 14:37:24 -0500
From: abtdhu <@t> gmail.com
Subject: [Histonet] Why when I submit my answer to the list an email
        with    Korea language pop up?
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Can it be blocked? Thanks.

Dorothy

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:01:26 -0500
From: "histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com" <histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Frozen Sections
To: "lsmallwo <@t> juno.com" <lsmallwo <@t> juno.com>
Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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We provide assistance, primarily on the outpatient frozens, but help with in-patient ones as well.

What makes you ask?

Michelle

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On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:37 PM, "lsmallwo <@t> juno.com" <lsmallwo <@t> juno.com> wrote:

Hi, I need to ask Histoland a question....How many HT departments provide assistance to the pathologist in the performance of frozen sections (cutting and staining of slides) to be evaluated by the pathologist?   Thank you very much in advance!
Lorraine

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 22:12:59 +0000
From: Joelle Weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] it happened again - the foreign reply
To: Michelle <histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com>,
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I get the same thing everytime. No, I don't know why it appears.


Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC





> From: Histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com
> To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 10:01:24 -0500
> CC:
> Subject: [Histonet] it happened again - the foreign reply
>
> Does anyone have a clue as to why I keep getting a "foreign" reply to
> every email I send to histonet?  Is the group seeing the same foreign
> message I am seeing?  Am I the only one getting this message?
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>
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> Michelle
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 22:39:58 +0000
From: Joelle Weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] CLIA Inspection Question
To: Michelle <histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com>, 'Bryan Szpunar'
        <bszpunar <@t> umail.iu.edu>, "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Probably depends on your environment or organization, but personally I would go for CAP if you are doing pathology.


Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC





> From: Histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com
> To: bszpunar <@t> umail.iu.edu; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:30:34 -0500
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] CLIA Inspection Question
> CC:
>
> Hi Histonetters,
>
> It's me again!  ;)  I am interested in your thoughts on this:  would it be better to simply apply for a CAP accreditation and get both the CAP and CLIA certificates at the same time?  My thoughts are these:  if meeting the CAP guidelines is effectively meeting the CLIA requirements, would it make more sense to prep for one bird and get two at the same time?  Would I still need to look at the CLIA regs, under this scenario?
>
> Out of my element, but definitely trying to learn!
>
> Thanks for the input I have received so far ... you all are a
> wonderful resource.  :)
>
> Michelle
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 23:09:48 -0500
From: Garreyf <garreyf <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] CLIA Inspection Question
To: Joelle Weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
        <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,    Bryan Szpunar
        <bszpunar <@t> umail.iu.edu>
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I believe you apply for a clia certificate regardless. Then, every two years you need to be inspected.
You can choose cap or joint commission to survey you.
Cap meets or exceeds clia regulations. I'm more familiar with CAP. If you choose cap your lab will be required to inspect another lab.
Hope this helps.
Garrey

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> On Feb 7, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Joelle Weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Probably depends on your environment or organization, but personally I would go for CAP if you are doing pathology.
>
>
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com
>> To: bszpunar <@t> umail.iu.edu; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 09:30:34 -0500
>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] CLIA Inspection Question
>> CC:
>>
>> Hi Histonetters,
>>
>> It's me again!  ;)  I am interested in your thoughts on this:  would it be better to simply apply for a CAP accreditation and get both the CAP and CLIA certificates at the same time?  My thoughts are these:  if meeting the CAP guidelines is effectively meeting the CLIA requirements, would it make more sense to prep for one bird and get two at the same time?  Would I still need to look at the CLIA regs, under this scenario?
>>
>> Out of my element, but definitely trying to learn!
>>
>> Thanks for the input I have received so far ... you all are a
>> wonderful resource.  :)
>>
>> Michelle
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:40:27 -0500
From: Bob Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Frozen Sections
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Lorraine asks: >>Hi, I need to ask Histoland a question....How many HT departments provide assistance to the pathologist in the performance of frozen sections (cutting and staining of slides) to be evaluated by the pathologist?<<

This has to do more with the prestige of the pathologist(s) in the laboratory than with the actual need. Even if I'm doing the frozen section myself, I appreciate having a second person to stain the slide - it considerably improves turnaround if I'm having trouble cutting the section.

Many younger pathologists do not have adequate skills in cutting frozen sections, and really need somebody to cut the sections. I cut hundreds of them during my residency, and thousands during my research fellowship, but not every pathologist has this experience.

On a different topic, most formaldehyde neutralizers are simply sodium bisulfite (a.k.a. metabisulfite), but you have to have the cachet of an expensive brand-name to keep the inspectors and managers happy.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN


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