[Histonet] RE:Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain

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Debra, 
it appears most of the histology world disagrees with me but I stand by my post.  If TRAP didn't work with formic acid in our hands, a major pharmaceutical treatment wouldn't be ready to help women with post-menopausal osteoporosis. 
Ray 

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From: "Sarah Mack" <Sarah_Mack <@t> urmc.rochester.edu> 
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Subject: [Histonet] RE:Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain 

In our hands we have never had TRAP success on Formic acid decalcified tissue. 

Sarah Mack 
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   1. RE: Allowable temperature range (Linda Prasad (SCHN)) 
   2. Positive Control for IF? (Paula Sicurello) 
   3. C3d? (Paula Sicurello) 
   4. Re: Positive Control for IF? (Mark Tarango) 
   5. Re: Positive Control for IF? (Jim Burchette) 
   6. RE: C3d? (Sebree Linda A) 
   7. interface between Bond and Cerner CoPath Plus (Nancy Schmitt) 
   8. Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain (Debra Siena) 
   9. RE: Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain 
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Message: 1 
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 22:39:00 +0000 
From: "Linda Prasad (SCHN)" <linda.prasad <@t> health.nsw.gov.au> 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Allowable temperature range 
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If it's in formalin it can just stay at room temperature. 

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What is the allowable temperature range for a histology specimen after collection in formalin for shipping and storage? 

Any ideas? 
 Tim 

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Message: 2 
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:12:22 -0700 
From: Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> 
Subject: [Histonet] Positive Control for IF? 
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Good Afternoon Netters, 

Since we went down the path of hot dogs and Slim Jim's as positive controls 
for FFPE stains, I was wondering..... 

Is there a source, like a hot dog or piece of steak, that could be a 
positive control for immunofluorescence C4d? 

What I'd really like to find is some food or food product (our positive 
patient biopsies for the frozen IF are teeny-tiny) that is positive for the 
whole host of IF stains:  IgG, IgA, IgM, Kappa, Lambda, you get the picture. 

Please send your suggestions my way. 

Thanks in advance, 

Paula  :-) 


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Message: 3 
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:14:16 -0700 
From: Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> 
Subject: [Histonet] C3d? 
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Hello Again My Dear Netters, 

One of our pathologists was wondering if anyone out in Histoland is 
performing a C3d stain? 

If so what type: IHC, IF? 

Thanks oodles! 

Paula  :-) 


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Message: 4 
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:16:54 -0700 
From: Mark Tarango <marktarango <@t> gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Positive Control for IF? 
To: Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> 
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It is April 1st, isn't it? 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> wrote: 

> Good Afternoon Netters, 
> 
> Since we went down the path of hot dogs and Slim Jim's as positive controls 
> for FFPE stains, I was wondering..... 
> 
> Is there a source, like a hot dog or piece of steak, that could be a 
> positive control for immunofluorescence C4d? 
> 
> What I'd really like to find is some food or food product (our positive 
> patient biopsies for the frozen IF are teeny-tiny) that is positive for the 
> whole host of IF stains:  IgG, IgA, IgM, Kappa, Lambda, you get the 
> picture. 
> 
> Please send your suggestions my way. 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Paula  :-) 
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Message: 5 
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 20:16:29 -0500 
From: Jim Burchette <jburch01 <@t> gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Positive Control for IF? 
To: Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> 
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Paula, does your institution perform autopsies? If so, have the staff 
notify you when there is a lupus nephritis case. Have them send you 
fresh renal cortex. Cut up the tissue into small cubes and freeze for later 
use as IF control. Run your battery of Ig's, compliment and light chains. 
Most should have some reactivity. 
You might be able to use a rejected kidney for C4d if it isn't to necrotic. 
Transplant heart and liver can also be used for rejection antibodies. 
JB 


On Wednesday, April 1, 2015, Paula Sicurello <patpxs <@t> gmail.com> wrote: 

> Good Afternoon Netters, 
> 
> Since we went down the path of hot dogs and Slim Jim's as positive controls 
> for FFPE stains, I was wondering..... 
> 
> Is there a source, like a hot dog or piece of steak, that could be a 
> positive control for immunofluorescence C4d? 
> 
> What I'd really like to find is some food or food product (our positive 
> patient biopsies for the frozen IF are teeny-tiny) that is positive for the 
> whole host of IF stains:  IgG, IgA, IgM, Kappa, Lambda, you get the 
> picture. 
> 
> Please send your suggestions my way. 
> 
> Thanks in advance, 
> 
> Paula  :-) 
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Message: 6 
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:25:05 +0000 
From: Sebree Linda A <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org> 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] C3d? 
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Cleveland Clinic does it by IHC and I think also by IF. 

Linda A. Sebree 
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics 
IHC/ISH Laboratory, Rm A4/204-3224 
600 Highland Ave. 
Madison, WI 53792 
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Subject: [Histonet] C3d? 

Hello Again My Dear Netters, 

One of our pathologists was wondering if anyone out in Histoland is performing a C3d stain? 

If so what type: IHC, IF? 

Thanks oodles! 

Paula  :-) 
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Message: 7 
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 14:13:49 +0000 
From: Nancy Schmitt <Nancy_Schmitt <@t> pa-ucl.com> 
Subject: [Histonet] interface between Bond and Cerner CoPath Plus 
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Does anyone currently have an interface between the Leica Bond stainer and Cerner CoPath plus?  How does it work? Cost? 
Thank you 
Nancy Schmitt MLT, HT(ASCP) 



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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:00:25 +0000 
From: Debra Siena <DSiena <@t> statlab.com> 
Subject: [Histonet] Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain 
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Hi Histonetters, 

I have a question to ask if you don't mind.  Can TRAP Histochemical staining be performed after decalcifying with formic acid? Any tricks of the trade, etc?  If anyone has any experience or references that they could point me to, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks in advance for your help. 




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Message: 9 
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 10:10:11 -0600 
From: Elizabeth Chlipala <liz <@t> premierlab.com> 
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP 
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Debbie 

In our hands it has not worked on formic acid decaled samples, EDTA decal only. 

Liz 

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Subject: [Histonet] Question about Formic acid decal and TRAP stain 

Hi Histonetters, 

I have a question to ask if you don't mind.  Can TRAP Histochemical staining be performed after decalcifying with formic acid? Any tricks of the trade, etc?  If anyone has any experience or references that they could point me to, I would greatly appreciate it.  Thanks in advance for your help. 




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