[Histonet] Leica Bond Stainer

Kim Tournear kim.tournear <@t> yahoo.com
Wed Aug 22 09:09:40 CDT 2012


The Bond III and Bond max are great. The Bond III has a shorter run time. Not to mention the cost savings on both machines. And yes, maintenance is a piece of cake. Good luck!

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On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:13 AM, "Crowell, Thomas" <Thomas.Crowell <@t> MPI.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Our laboratory is considering a purchase, and Leica will be giving a presentation on the unit in September.  I was hoping to get some responses of pros/cons/quirks from users to help in our assessment.  We are currently using Ventana XT to look at PD biomarkers in cell lines, xenografts and some clinical samples.  I would be interested in a comparison of performance and reliability between these platforms.
> 
> Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Tom
> 
> Thomas Crowell
> Supplemental Contractor
> Molecular Pathology
> 
> Millennium: The Takeda Oncology Company
> 35 Landsdowne Street | Cambridge, MA | 02139
> Phone: 617.444.2303 Fax: 617.551.3744
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>   1. Productivity (Heckford, Karen - SMMC-SF)
>   2. Ventana Symphony reagents (Clare Thornton)
>   3. DAB precipitate on H. pylori (Dorothy Glass)
>   4. RE: DAB precipitate on H. pylori (Vanessa Perez)
>   5. RE: Productivity (CHRISTIE GOWAN)
>   6. Re: Productivity (Rene J Buesa)
>   7. Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 105, Issue 24 (Me)
>   8. New Position (Wilson A)
>   9. Formalin and Operating Rooms (Debra Siena)
>  10. Re: Formalin and Operating Rooms (Mark Tarango)
>  11. Re: Formalin and Operating Rooms (Paula Sicurello)
>  12. annoying crystals on sections (E. Wayne Johnson)
>  13. help ! Dako Seymour labeling software - autostainer plus
>      (richard wild)
>  14. RE: Productivity (Boyd, Debbie M)
>  15. RE: Formalin and Operating Rooms (Horn, Hazel V)
>  16. Renal Cell Carcinoma Poll (Glen Dawson)
>  17. RE: Formalin and Operating Rooms (O'Donnell, Bill)
>  18. RE: Formalin and Operating Rooms (Lynette Pavelich)
>  19. RE: DAB precipitate on H. pylori (Susan.Walzer <@t> HCAHealthcare.com)
>  20. Position - Snr Histotechnician (Houston, Ronald)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:42:39 -0700
> From: "Heckford, Karen - SMMC-SF" <Karen.Heckford <@t> DignityHealth.org>
> Subject: [Histonet] Productivity
> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> Good Morning,
> I know we have been over this before, how does your lab measure productivity?  Are you going by block and slide or by CPT code?  I have been told by the "Suits" that we can only measure productivity by per specimen or CPT code with no weight and value.  As you know when you get a big case you can have a bunch of blocks on it therefore a bunch of slides.   I do everything from GI specimens to big breast cases.  They will tell me that our productivity is down and we need to cut hours.   I just do not know exactly how to drill it in to them that things are not always as they appear on paper.  I am talking in circles until I am blue in the face...AUGH!!!!!!
> 
> 
> Karen Heckford HT ASCP CE
> Lead Histology Technician
> St. Mary's Medical Center
> 450 Stanyan St.
> San Francisco, Ca. 94117
> 415-668-1000 ext. 6167
> karen.heckford <@t> dignityhealth.org
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:49:25 -0400
> From: Clare Thornton <CThornton <@t> dahlchase.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] Ventana Symphony reagents
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> We have some Symphony reagents and coverslips that we no longer need.  If you are in the New England area, we could deliver them with our courier service.  If you are outside of New England, if you pay the shipping we will send them.  Please email me off list if you would like to know what we have and are interested in taking any/all of it.
> 
> Have a great day everyone!
> 
> Clare
> 
> Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP), QIHC
> Assistant Histology Supervisor
> Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
> 417 State Street, Suite 540
> Bangor, ME 04401
> cthornton <@t> dahlchase.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 11:12:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Dorothy Glass <techmana12 <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] DAB precipitate on H. pylori
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> I have been getting something on some slides, not all that looks like bacteria but it is not. It looks like Dab precipitate. It looks like the Dab is breaking down, ?but only noticeable on the stains for H. pylori. ?I wash my water bath, and changes my blades. It not occurs all the time, but it has happened about four times. ?Could it be the water not being filtered properly. We have a water filtering system, but it has not been working well lately. Would that have anything to do with the brown patches on H. pylori?
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:10:40 -0500
> From: Vanessa Perez <vperez <@t> pathreflab.com>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] DAB precipitate on H. pylori
> To: Dorothy Glass <techmana12 <@t> yahoo.com>,
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> Are you using the ventana h. pylori?  If you are we are having that problem with some of our satellite labs.  Ventana said its an issue with that new antibody and some labs but not all are experiencing this.  Have you called it in the Customer support???
> 
> Vanessa Perez Garcia
> Histology Supervisor
> Pathology Reference Lab
> 210-892-3746
> 210-892-3732
> vperez <@t> pathreflab.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Dorothy Glass
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:13 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] DAB precipitate on H. pylori
> 
> I have been getting something on some slides, not all that looks like bacteria but it is not. It looks like Dab precipitate. It looks like the Dab is breaking down, ?but only noticeable on the stains for H. pylori. ?I wash my water bath, and changes my blades. It not occurs all the time, but it has happened about four times. ?Could it be the water not being filtered properly. We have a water filtering system, but it has not been working well lately. Would that have anything to do with the brown patches on H. pylori?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 18:37:55 +0000
> From: CHRISTIE GOWAN <christiegowan <@t> msn.com>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Productivity
> To: <karen.heckford <@t> dignityhealth.org>,
>        "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> Hi Karen,
> The best way to communicate with management is through data. If you have access to say the last 3 years of blocks and or slides cut and you compare it to accessions or cpt codes then you have a roadmap of where you have been in the past and where you are now. Do you have more or less employees and is this a temporary lull in numbers or has this dip occurred before. At least you will be able to formulate a more informed response to their request for cutting back hours. This is always a complicated issue and we have seen an increase in case complexity as well in our institution so our numbers of blocks vs. specimen count is skewed as well. Tell them you will cut hours but you will need all new equipment to continue to meet your deadlines! Ha!. Let us know how it turns out and good luck!
> 
> Christie Gowan, HT (ASCP)
> UAB Hospital
> Histology Supervisor
> Surgical Pathology
> 205 934 4991
> cgowan <@t> uabmc.edu
> 
> 
>> From: Karen.Heckford <@t> DignityHealth.org
>> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 10:42:39 -0700
>> Subject: [Histonet] Productivity
>> 
>> Good Morning,
>> I know we have been over this before, how does your lab measure productivity? Are you going by block and slide or by CPT code? I have been told by the "Suits" that we can only measure productivity by per specimen or CPT code with no weight and value. As you know when you get a big case you can have a bunch of blocks on it therefore a bunch of slides. I do everything from GI specimens to big breast cases. They will tell me that our productivity is down and we need to cut hours. I just do not know exactly how to drill it in to them that things are not always as they appear on paper. I am talking in circles until I am blue in the face...AUGH!!!!!!
>> 
>> 
>> Karen Heckford HT ASCP CE
>> Lead Histology Technician
>> St. Mary's Medical Center
>> 450 Stanyan St.
>> San Francisco, Ca. 94117
>> 415-668-1000 ext. 6167
>> karen.heckford <@t> dignityhealth.org
>> Caution: This email message, including all content and attachments, is CONFIDENTIAL and may be of a nature that is LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. The information contained in this email message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you have received this document in error. Any further review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply email. Thank you."
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:03:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Productivity
> To: "Heckford, Karen - SMMC-SF" <Karen.Heckford <@t> DignityHealth.org>,
>        "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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> Hi Karen:
> "Productivity" and its measures depends on who is going to use it.
> 1- For the pathologists as a whole they are interested in CASES they receive and sign either on a daily or monthly basis;
> 2- For management it is measured in how many cases the pathologists can sign and therefore the administration can bill/collect
> 3- as the Lead Tech you are interested is the work output of your staff specially how many blocks each can section either per hour or per shift or how many minutes it takes to complete a FS. Mind that the ONLY productivity rate defined by CAP is the time a FS can be diagnosed from the moment it is received at histology and that has to be 20 minutes or less.
> Nowadays almost every lab has an automated stainer so the number of slides has been "downgraded" as a productivity index, although it is not the same to?prepare 1 than 20 slides.
> The unit of time is also a subject of debate: some prefer the "hour" but from the whole lab the index most desired is the number of CASES a lab can complete every day.
> Under separate cover I am sending you some articles I wrote on the subject so you can select those productivity indices most fit your lab.
> Ren? J.
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "Heckford, Karen - SMMC-SF" <Karen.Heckford <@t> DignityHealth.org>
> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:42 PM
> Subject: [Histonet] Productivity
> 
> Good Morning,
> I know we have been over this before, how does your lab measure productivity?? Are you going by block and slide or by CPT code?? I have been told by the "Suits" that we can only measure productivity by per specimen or CPT code with no weight and value.? As you know when you get a big case you can have a bunch of blocks on it therefore a bunch of slides.? I do everything from GI specimens to big breast cases.? They will tell me that our productivity is down and we need to cut hours.? I just do not know exactly how to drill it in to them that things are not always as they appear on paper.? I am talking in circles until I am blue in the face...AUGH!!!!!!
> 
> 
> Karen Heckford HT ASCP CE
> Lead Histology Technician
> St. Mary's Medical Center
> 450 Stanyan St.
> San Francisco, Ca. 94117
> 415-668-1000 ext. 6167
> karen.heckford <@t> dignityhealth.org
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:38:44 -0400
> From: Me<jennpeteelz <@t> verizon.net>
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 105, Issue 24
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> I have a question for all in Histoland...
> Concerning the CAP revision on the use of negative controls...I work in a NJ
> lab that does work for NY offices,  CAP states we no longer need to run
> controls if using biotin free detection but does NY state board of health
> agree? Not running those extra slides is a huge money and time saver. We are
> using Leica Bond III and the polymer detection. Anyone have an answer or
> know where I can get the answer?
> 
> Jen Elz
> Pathology Solutions
> Eatontown, NJ
> Sent from



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