[Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

[Jan Shivers]

I agree 100% with Glen.

Jan Shivers
UMN VDL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawson, Glen" <GDawson <@t> dynacaremilwaukee.com>
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 1:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question


IMHO: Running any piece of tissue as a control that does not belong to the 
patient being tested makes zero sense.  Because it would not be from the 
patient tissue being tested, how do you know if it was handled the same as 
the patient tissue?  For example:

1) Were they processed the same way?
2) Did the patient tissue dry out in the OR before it was delievered?
3) Was the patient tissue ever irradiated?
4) Does the patient tissue contain any of a number of substances that could 
cause non-specific staining.
5) Was the patient abducted by aliens?

My point is that running a piece of tissue as a negative control that is not 
even from the patient being tested throws all of the conditions that the 
patient tissue was exposed to prior to and during processing out the window. 
This makes NO sense.

Glen Dawson  BS, HT(ASCP) & QIHC
IHC Manager
Milwaukee, WI



-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Curt
Tague
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 11:04 AM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] IHC pos. & neg. control question

I got this email from a pathologist today. we have always run a positive
with the patient tissue and a negative, the same patient tissue, and had
no
problems. Am I missing something. Is there any documented regulation
dictating what needs to be used for the controls. In some cases if we
get
one slide of patient tissue, then we will use the pos. and neg. cont.
from
the same block but typically it's the pt. tissue that is used for the
neg.
control. Thanks for your guidance.



Email:

"I received slides on sentinel lymph node biopsies with a positive
control
on the same slide as the breast tissue, but the negative control was
just
the patient's lymph node and did not have the corresponding section used
for
the positive control.  The patient's own tissue cannot be used as a
negative
control.  The tissue that stained positively must serve as the negative
control without the antibody.  This is critical and you need to correct
that
immediately."





Curt



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