[Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications

Pamela Marcum mucram11 <@t> comcast.net
Tue May 18 09:42:45 CDT 2010



It is too long to type and can be found in the April 7th, AAPA e-news Today or it is ANP.11610 Phase II CAP regualtions/Exceptions Grandfathered at 42CFR493.1489 and 1491.  These are the exact regulations and should anwser all questions about who can and a cannot gross.  Sorry I just don't have it in way to send easily.  I contacted the AAPA and got the info. 



Pam Marcum 

Anatomic Pathology Manager 

UAMS 



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From: "Ronald Houston" <Ronald.Houston <@t> nationwidechildrens.org> 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:41:59 AM 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

Care to share with us what they told you regarding the specifics of who can and who cannot gross? 

Ronnie Houston 
Anatomic Pathology Manager 
Nationwide Children's Hospital 
Columbus OH 43205 
(614) 722 5450 
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 



I went to the American Association of Pathology Assistants web site and then called them.  I got the most help for the question of who can and who can not gross from them.  It will not be state specific so if you think your state has other more complex rules you will need to check there.  The rule I have now are what CAP will look for and that is what I am working toward.  CAP is who will grade us - not the state overall. 



Pam 





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To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
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Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the 
real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing 
category. This would be different for different states I think as well. 
Let me give an example. 

In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to 
Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in 
the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in 
actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High 
Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that 
clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform 
"High Complexity" testing. 

I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can 
perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. 

I hope this helps. 



Kim Donadio 
Pathology Supervisor 
Baptist Hospital 
1000 W Moreno St. 
Pensacola FL 32501 
Phone (850) 469-7718 
Fax (850) 434-4996 



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Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is 
strictly limited to grossing 
anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time 
histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work 
qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of 
this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management 
if possible.<< 

Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for 
Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about 
the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be 
changing, and different certifying organizations have different 
requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's 
requiring what, I'd appreciate it. 

Bob Richmond 
Samurai Pathologist 
Knoxville TN 

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To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
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Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the 
real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing 
category. This would be different for different states I think as well. 
Let me give an example. 

In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to 
Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in 
the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in 
actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High 
Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that 
clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform 
"High Complexity" testing. 

I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can 
perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. 

I hope this helps. 



Kim Donadio 
Pathology Supervisor 
Baptist Hospital 
1000 W Moreno St. 
Pensacola FL 32501 
Phone (850) 469-7718 
Fax (850) 434-4996 



Robert Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
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[Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 






Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is 
strictly limited to grossing 
anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time 
histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work 
qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of 
this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management 
if possible.<< 

Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for 
Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about 
the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be 
changing, and different certifying organizations have different 
requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's 
requiring what, I'd appreciate it. 

Bob Richmond 
Samurai Pathologist 
Knoxville TN 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 8:41:59 AM 
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

Care to share with us what they told you regarding the specifics of who can and who cannot gross? 

Ronnie Houston 
Anatomic Pathology Manager 
Nationwide Children's Hospital 
Columbus OH 43205 
(614) 722 5450 
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 



I went to the American Association of Pathology Assistants web site and then called them.  I got the most help for the question of who can and who can not gross from them.  It will not be state specific so if you think your state has other more complex rules you will need to check there.  The rule I have now are what CAP will look for and that is what I am working toward.  CAP is who will grade us - not the state overall. 



Pam 





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Donadio" <Kim.Donadio <@t> bhcpns.org> 
To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the 
real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing 
category. This would be different for different states I think as well. 
Let me give an example. 

In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to 
Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in 
the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in 
actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High 
Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that 
clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform 
"High Complexity" testing. 

I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can 
perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. 

I hope this helps. 



Kim Donadio 
Pathology Supervisor 
Baptist Hospital 
1000 W Moreno St. 
Pensacola FL 32501 
Phone (850) 469-7718 
Fax (850) 434-4996 



Robert Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
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05/15/2010 04:46 PM 

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[Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 






Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is 
strictly limited to grossing 
anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time 
histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work 
qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of 
this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management 
if possible.<< 

Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for 
Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about 
the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be 
changing, and different certifying organizations have different 
requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's 
requiring what, I'd appreciate it. 

Bob Richmond 
Samurai Pathologist 
Knoxville TN 

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Donadio" <Kim.Donadio <@t> bhcpns.org> 
To: "Robert Richmond" <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:55:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 

There has been a lot of confusion about this. From my understanding the 
real definition of who can gross falls under the "High Complexity" testing 
category. This would be different for different states I think as well. 
Let me give an example. 

In the State of Florida pervious technicians may have been trained to 
Gross large specimens( or biopsies ). With this new law a technician in 
the state of Florida would not be able to continue to gross because in 
actuality they never held a license that allowed them to perform "High 
Complexity" testing. So they are not grandfathered in because of that 
clause. Technologist would, because they have always been able to preform 
"High Complexity" testing. 

I also think that which ever laws your state goes by for people who can 
perform "High Complexity" testing is your answer. 

I hope this helps. 



Kim Donadio 
Pathology Supervisor 
Baptist Hospital 
1000 W Moreno St. 
Pensacola FL 32501 
Phone (850) 469-7718 
Fax (850) 434-4996 



Robert Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com> 
Sent by: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
05/15/2010 04:46 PM 

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Subject 
[Histonet] Re: Grossing Technician Qualifications 






Tanisha Neely HT(ASCP) asks: >>Are the guidelines for a tech who is 
strictly limited to grossing 
anatomic pathology specimens different than for those of a full time 
histotech? Could a bachelor degree'd person with the right course work 
qualify for this position? If so, does anyone have documentation of 
this? I'd like to present this as a staffing option to my management 
if possible.<< 

Well, I'm giving a talk on the subject to the Tennessee Society for 
Histotechnology meeting in Chattanooga, and I'm pretty confused about 
the question of who's allowed to gross - the rules seem to be 
changing, and different certifying organizations have different 
requirements. If somebody can spell out in detail who it is that's 
requiring what, I'd appreciate it. 

Bob Richmond 
Samurai Pathologist 
Knoxville TN 

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