[Histonet] What percent of HTL's do not have a BS degree?

Tue Jul 14 15:53:35 CDT 2009

I am with you Joyce, still going strong for 47 years and with no plans to retire, actually working my day job and a part time. I may not make it to 100 like you, but they will roll me out feet first. There are more of us around than people know.  Scary huh?

Shirley

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Weems, Joyce
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:37 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] What percent of HTL's do not have a BS degree?

Honey... You are a mere child! There are some of us that have been in
the business for 40+ years. I missed the grandfather approach by 7 mo -
time that I didn't work moving from place to place with my military
ex-husband. 

But I did finally get the degree and do the exam. But we're still
around. And I'll probably be working till I'm 100!!! J:>)

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas
Jasper
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 15:16
To: Feher, Stephen
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] What percent of HTL's do not have a BS degree?

Hi Steve,

I've got no statistics to offer you...just an observation.  I would say
that finding an HTL, without a Bachelor's degree is akin to the
proverbial needle in a haystack.  Anyone that obtained their HTL,
if/when they could be grandfathered in, is likely to be retired or close
to it.  First of all, most folks that went the OJT route for
certification were eligible to sit for the HT only (to my knowledge).
I've never met anyone with an HTL that did not have a Bachelor's as a
pre-requisite.  I've been doing histology for ~25 years.  I've met
people from all over the country and various parts of the world.  Truth
is there isn't an abundance of HTLs out there.  Unlike the Medical Lab
world, with the basic differences between MTs and MLTs, anatomic path
does not exactly mirror that with the HTL and HT.  It's true the MT and
HTL both require a Bachelor's, but responsibilities in most labs, etc.,
generally do not hinge on someone being an HT vs. an HTL. 

A person like myself is probably more common (Bachelor's and an HT).
Unless you know of someone in particular; that you want to hire, with an
HTL without a Bachelor's, I wouldn't waste time trying to justify it.  I
guess the bottom line is if you want an HTL, that person will almost
assuredly have a Bachelor's.  If you want to hire someone without a
Bachelor's that is certified (HT) you'll have better luck.  I think
having an HTL is a great thing.  I honestly have never pursued it
(though eligible) as the circumstances of my career would not have
rewarded me for doing so.  As a matter of fact some employers may look
at it as an over-qualification, or at least no justification for better
pay, perks or responsibility.  Again, no slam to HTLs just the way
things are, at least in my experience.

If you want to hire people without a Bachelor's I would definitely
pursue HTs.  HTs have been doing a great deal of very good work for
years in this field.  And it sounds like you're viewing the Bachelor's
thing as limiting factor more than the HTL itself.

Good luck,
Tom Jasper

Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS
Histology Supervisor
Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services Bend, Oregon 97701
541/693-2677
tjasper <@t> copc.net

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Feher,
Stephen
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:12 AM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] What percent of HTL's do not have a BS degree?

I'm trying to find some solid statistics to justify being able to hire
HTL (ASCP) candidates who do not have a Bachelor's degree.  I am
contending that requiring the candidate to have a Bachelor's degree will
eliminate a substantial number of very qualified people.  Does anyone
have any solid references to support my position.

Thanks,

Steve

Stephen A. Feher, MS, SCT (ASCP)

Pathology Supervisor

Catholic Medical Center

100 McGregor Street

Manchester, NH 03102

603-663-6707

sfeher <@t> cmc-nh.org <mailto:sfeher <@t> cmc-nh.org> 

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