[Histonet] RE: testing cutting ability--This is starting to Really Annoy me.

Wed Feb 25 11:16:07 CST 2009

"Instead of being so offended, why you just try to find out how different is academia from an AP histology lab?
 René J."

I believe that I have already described an understanding that research is different than clinical.  I did actually start off as a nurse way back when.  Human dignity is the same everywhere though.

It sounds like clinical labs mostly treat their Histotechs like dogs--starting with the interview, and continuing throughout the Tech's career.

And I find that offensive.

Jerry Ricks
Research Scientist
University of Washington
Department of Pathology

> 
> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, JR R <rosenfeldtek <@t> hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: JR R <rosenfeldtek <@t> hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: testing cutting ability--This is starting to Really Annoy me.
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:58 PM
> 
> All this talk of having people actually section as part of the interview
> process is offensive to me. 
> 
> I have hired and trained lots of histotechnologists.  Mostly I train them
> myself, from scratch, but sometimes I hire them pre-trained.  Then of course, I
> re-train them anyway so they can do the work to the specs of my lab.  Any
> deficiencies they have will be corrected through training.  By me.
> 
> At my University there is a formal 30 day (maybe it's longer, I can't
> recall) probationary period for new hires.   That's good enough.  Why in the
> world would I need to have them section as part of an interview process?
> 
> I am also offended by the "blocks per hour" language.  Partly
> it's because in my lab we do exhaustive serial sectioning, so I consider a
> tech who gives me one block every half-hour to be doing a good job.
> 
> Maybe it's different in clinical work, but...20 blocks per hour?  And you
> expect quality work?  
> 
> Jeez, are clinical histopath labs just sweat-shops?
> 
> It's no wonder histopathologists feel overworked and underappreciated.
> 
> Jerry Ricks
> Research Scientist
> University of Washington
> Department of Pathology
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:14:06 -0500
> > From: trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com
> > To: rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
> tbraud <@t> holyredeemer.com
> > Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: testing cutting ability during an interview
> > CC: 
> > 
> > We also have the staff talk to the applicant during this process. It gives
> you a good idea if the person can talk and cut at the same time. The last thing
> anyone wants is a histotech that has to stop sectioning during a conversation!
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Rene J
> > Buesa
> > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:05 AM
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Terri Braud
> > Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: testing cutting ability during an interview
> > 
> > 
> > I for one always required any applicant to prepare 20 slides stained with
> H&E. I can assure that I selected "difficult" blocks to cut and
> the applicant was required to sign a disclaimer that included that s/he he knew
> how to section and avoid injuries.
> > The whole process was timed (to get a first idea about productivity) and I
> evaluated and graded the slides at the end.
> > The results were used as one of the elements to decide about offering the
> position (the fundamental) but I waited until all the applicants had completed
> the tests so sometimes the applicant had to be contacted a few days later to let
> him/her know about the results.
> > René J.
> > 
> > --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Terri Braud <tbraud <@t> holyredeemer.com> wrote:
> > 
> > From: Terri Braud <tbraud <@t> holyredeemer.com>
> > Subject: [Histonet] RE: testing cutting ability during an interview
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 8:57 AM
> > 
> > >From a recent digest:
> > <If you want to know if someone you are interviewing can really section
> or
> > stain, set them down at a microtome during the interview process, and
> watch
> > them.> 
> > 
> > I have a question about the following statement plucked from a recent
> digest.
> > What are the legal ramifications if a person cuts themselves during an
> > interview? 
> > We've had this discussion at my place of employment and came to the
> > decision that it would leave us open to a legal liability.
> > I would love to hear some discussion on this subject, as well as any
> > experiences that others have had.
> > Terri
> > 
> > Terri L. Braud, HT(ASCP)
> > Anatomic Pathology Supervisor
> > Laboratory
> > Holy Redeemer Hospital and Medical Center
> > 
> > 
> > 
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