[Histonet] This may be a repeat, with additions Re: Leica vs Ventana

gayle callis gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net
Fri Dec 11 17:01:23 CST 2009

Well said ladies, and thank you!  


Gayle Callis 


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Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [Histonet] Leica vs Ventana


We have both and each serves it's purpose, I like using the Leica Bond for
research and find it to be a much more open system (with research version of
the software, and you can switch back and forth from research and clincal on
the same instrument, so the clinical work I do on the Bond is clinical
research, not pure clinical, because right now I have my Bond in a non CAP
lab, I could move it to the CAP lab and then use it for clinical work down
there, I could still do research on it as well I believe, because for CAP
you cannot report out clinical samples in a non CAP lab, but you can do as
much research in a CAP clinical lab as you want, those rules only go that
direction, research only in a non CAP lab, but a CAP certified lab can do
research and clinical).  Down stairs in the Derm Path lab they use just the
Ventana Ultra and seem to be happy with that.  As far as cost, each of them
will tell you the other will cost more than theirs to run, I haven't had
both of them long enough to say who is right but I amagine they will be
comparable, each company does market research and knows what the market will
bare and what they have to sell their stuff for to stay competitive the
other, so I would be surprised if there was a huge huge difference in costs.

For me it comes down to who you feel the most comfortable with, and who you
trust, that is all I have to say about that. 




Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC

IHCtech, LLC

Fitzsimmons BioScience Park

12635 Montview Blvd. Suite 215

Aurora, CO 80010



wk email pruegg <@t> ihctech.net

web site www.ihctech.net





We are a large Reference Lab and use both instruments and get good results
and vendor support from Leica and Ventana,  if you are a small lab then it
should be your preference and what you feel comfortable with.


Karin Groeger

Histology Supervisor

US LABS, Irvine,CA

949-450-0145 ext. 649


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