[Histonet] HT schools
Peggy Bisher
mbisher <@t> Princeton.EDU
Mon Aug 4 13:44:49 CDT 2008
I would say that teaching Electron Microscopy is the same. There are a few
schools (two, I believe) that offer an official degree (it's an Associate
Degree) in Electron Microscopy, but most of my learning has been on the job
and that is how I work with my students - one on one.
Here at Princeton we offer a class in electron optics, but it is just
theory.
My first job was at the National Institutes of Health and my boss there had
a degree in theoretical physics. He gave me a few books and I taught myself,
at least in the beginning. He knew the instrument, but nothing about sample
prep.
The Microscopy Society of America does offer a Electron Microscopist
Certification for those who want to have this. But I have been doing EM
since 1980, so never felt the need to be certified.
Margaret E. Bisher
Electron Microscopy & Histology Core Facility Manager
Department of Molecular Biology
Princeton University
Moffett Laboratory, Room 113
Princeton, New Jersey
Office: (609) 258-7026
Fax: (609) 258-8468
mbisher <@t> princeton.edu
On 8/4/08 1:08 PM, "Amber McKenzie" <amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net> wrote:
> Even if the online schools teach the theory of Histology, they expect the
> supervisor/techs to teach the potential HT's how to perform Histology. Even
> though there is no practical anymore, potential HT's have to be taught the
> hands on part of the job with OJT. Even though I've heard many people say
> that there is no more OJT, really there is b/c if these future HT's don't
> attend an actual HT school where there are classrooms/practice labs full of
> teachers, then we as working HT's have to teach our future co-workers how to
> do our job so that we'll have more people to pick from to hire. Does any
> other profession handle their future employee's like this or is Histology in a
> category of its own?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patsy Ruegg [mailto:pruegg <@t> ihctech.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:46 AM
> To: 'Cheri Miller'; rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
> Amber McKenzie
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools
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> Remember that now there is no practical portion of the HT exam, so they are
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> not being tested on hands on experiences anyway. The most difficult problem
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> I have with training people on the job (and I have trained many) is that now
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> they are not prepared to take the exam because they are examined all on
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> theory. I have some really well trained people who can do the work really
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> well, but they have a hard time taking the computer test which they pretty
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> much have to memorize out of books.
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> Patsy
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> Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
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> IHCtech
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cheri Miller
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> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 7:05 AM
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> To: rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; 'Amber McKenzie'
>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] HT schools
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> Someone has to teach them the "hands on" part of histology. I do not leave
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> this to my staff. I teach / give them the skills they need to perform the
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> practical part of their profession. As their supervisor I am very much
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> involved in their training. I am sure I am not the only one.??
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> Cheryl Miller HT (ASCP)
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> Histology Supervisor
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> Physicians Laboratory,P.C.
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> Omaha, Ne.
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> 402 738 5052
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 2:42 PM
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> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Amber McKenzie
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> Subject: Re: [Histonet] HT schools
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> Wrong! The advantage of the "on line" or "distance learning" courses is that
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> they provide the theory on line while you are working at a given laboratory
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> doing your training (or even as part of your daily work) so there is no
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> "actual training" to be done by the supervisor.
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> At this moment NAACLS has 30 HT and 3 HTL accredited programs only, with an
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> overall capacity of about 300-325 students, and this will not be enough to
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> take care of all the retiring histotechs.
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> Costs is one of the reasons why the number of HTs schools is dwindling.
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> René J.
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> --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Amber McKenzie <amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net> wrote:
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> From: Amber McKenzie <amber.mckenzie <@t> gastrodocs.net>
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> Subject: [Histonet] HT schools
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> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 1:23 PM
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> Where are all the HT accredited schools and why aren't there more out
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> there? I've seen the online classes' people can take, but that
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> requires
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> them to be trained in a lab, as well, for the "hands on" part. So,
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> actually the supervisor still has to train potential HT's "on the
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> job"
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> before they can sit for the board exam. Right?
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