[Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Rene J Buesa
rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com
Fri Oct 6 09:59:40 CDT 2006
Beatrice:
That is the thing! There are people that do not have any idea what are the principles behind histology but they work as histotechs.
Those who just came to embed were the ones that allowed you to section later and were part of the work flow. Had they not embedded somebody had to do it.
Those who just stain H&E can be substituted by an automatic stainer or by a lab aide feeding the stainer. But as long as they do a histotech task they are facilitating the overall histology work and are part of the whole, have their fraction of the work flow from the specimen reception to the slide ready for the pathologist.
Like it or not, knowingly or not, licensed or not, they are working as histotechs, even if they should not!.
René J.
DeBrosse_Beatrice <DeBrosse_Beatrice <@t> Allergan.com> wrote:
Hi René,
OK, ok, I guess I fell in the can of worms
..I really didn’t mean to offend anybody. I’m with you, our profession isn’t recognized or appreciated, and people do think anybody can do it.
However, I worked in places where people just came in to embed, and they had no clue about anything else. Even if people stain, a lot of them follow a recipe, but do they really know how an H&E works? Oh boy, there I am again on the high horse, but there is a whole lot more to histology than “just” embed, cut and stain. It is an art, and it is somewhat magical. I know I am taking a lot of pride in what I’m doing and I know a lot of people feel the same, registered or not.
Honestly, I have no idea about the number, but it is high. I would imagine at least 49, 000.
Bea
-----Original Message-----
From: Rene J Buesa [mailto:rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:58 AM
To: DeBrosse_Beatrice; Douglas D Deltour; LuAnn Anderson; LaDonna G. Elpers; Jackie M O'Connor; Zajic Kari
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Beatrice:
This is not an issue of drawing a line or anything like that: just trying to have an idea of how we all feel about this.
Regardless of what should, or ought to be, the fact is that there are out there "X" number of people doing histology work; recognized or not, appreciated or not; with theoretical background or not; licensed or not.
We all belong to the same trade, we all are histotechs like it or not.
How many are we? 49,000? more? less?
What do you think. This is just to promote a discussion on the issue of how many are we. What "respect" are entitled to as a class or trade, that is all.
Not even the US Census recognizes us!
René J.
DeBrosse_Beatrice <DeBrosse_Beatrice <@t> Allergan.com> wrote:
Maybe, but it would make the number a whole lot more accurate if only the registered technicians would be accounted for. Otherwise, why even bother to have a registration.
That doesn't have anything do to with the quality of registered verses nonregistered histotechs. I know from experience they can do just as good of a job. But you have to draw the line somewhere.
Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
HT(ASCP)QIHC
Allergan, Inc.
2525 Dupont Drive RD-2A
Irvine, CA 92612
714-246-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Douglas D Deltour
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:44 PM
To: 'LuAnn Anderson'; 'Rene J Buesa'; 'LaDonna G. Elpers'; 'Jackie M O'Connor'; 'Zajic Kari'
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Can of worms...
If you pass a NAACLS accredited school or get a degree in histology then why
wouldn't you call them a HT?
Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Professional Pathology Services, PC
One Science Court
Suite 200
Columbia, SC 29203
(803)252-1913
Fax (803)254-3262
*****************************************************
PROFESSIONAL PATHOLOGY SERVICES, PC
NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY
This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to
which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged,
confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader
of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is
strictly prohibited by law. If you have received this communication in
error, please notify me immediately.
-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of LuAnn
Anderson
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 4:30 PM
To: Rene J Buesa; LaDonna G. Elpers; Jackie M O'Connor; Zajic Kari
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
I think that certification should be the issue.
One does not truly have the title of HTif they
have not passed the registry exam. JMHO.
At 02:47 PM 10/5/2006, Rene J Buesa wrote:
>No, certification is not the issue, just how
>many HTs there are, how many of us share this art of histology?
> René J.
>
>"LaDonna G. Elpers" wrote:
> Our facility has 6 Histology Technicians, my
> guess would be that there are probably another
> 15 in our town. The question would be if we
> talking about those certified only? We are
> currently half and half, 3 certified and 3 not.
>
>LaDonna G. Elpers, BA, HT(ASCP)
>Manager, Histology
>BASi (Bioanalytical Systems, Inc.)
>10424 Middle Mount Vernon Rd - Mount Vernon, IN 47620
>P 812.985.5900 ext 128
>F 812.985.3403
>lelpers <@t> bioanalytical.com
>www.bioanalytical.com
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
>On Behalf Of Jackie M O'Connor
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:46 PM
>To: Zajic Kari
>Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
>histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
>
>What about those of us who are doing the work of four people? Does that
>count?
>JO'C
>
>
>
>"Zajic Kari"
>Sent by: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>10/05/2006 01:28 PM
>
>To
>"Rene J Buesa" ,
>cc
>
>Subject
>RE: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi Rene, I enjoyed your recent article in the new Advance, was very
>interesting! I am only one in my facility, a general hospital. If you are
>taking count!! :)
>
>You have now inspired me to re-new my severly overdue membership with the
>NSH.
>Cheers from West Palm!
>Kari :)
>
>Kari Marie Zajic HTL,MLT
>Histology/Pathology Supervisor
>Palms West Hospital
>Pathology Department
>13001 State Road Eighty
>Loxahatchee, Florida 33470
>phone: (561)798-6036
>fax: (561)753-4298
>voicemail: (561)753-4299
>pager: (561)610-4949
>email: Kari.Zajic <@t> HCAHealthcare.com
>
>This email and any files transmitted with it may contain PRIVILEGED or
>CONFIDENTIAL
>information and may be read or used only by the intended recipient. If you
>are not the intended recipient of the email or any of its attachment,
>please be advised that you have received this email in error and that any
>use, dissemination, distribution, forwarding, printing, or copying of this
>email or any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received
>this email in error, please immediately purge it and all attachments and
>notify the sender by reply email or contact the sender at the number
>listed.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Rene J
>Buesa
>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 1:32 PM
>To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
>
>
>Dear Histonet subscriber:
>
>The US Census does NOT recognize histotechs (HTs) as a category of
>professionals (the NSH is going to try to do something about that during
>2007) so we do not know how many we are. Some indirect calculations are
>needed to answer that question.
>According to the US Census bureau:
>
>1- there are 5,193 general and surgical hospitals and perhaps 95% of
>them have a histology laboratory = 5,000 labs
>2- the average number of HTs per lab = 9 (range from 1 to 15 or more in
>some).
>So, in hospital settings there could be 5,000 x 9 = 45,000 HTs
>
>3- There are 4,084 institutions of higher education and perhaps 50% have
>some sort of histology lab, veterinary, marine, research, botany, etc. =
>2,000 histology labs.
>4- those experimental labs have an average of 2 HTs (between 1 and 5,
>sometimes up to 10)
>So, in universities there could be 2,000 x 2 = 4,000 HTs
>
>Adding both = 49,000 histotechs nationwide.
>
>If membership to the NSH in 2006 (4,400 members) is any indicator (and
>usually prestigious professional societies are able to have a membership
>of roughly 10% of the profession) it can be said that the 4,400 members in
>2006 = 9% of the proposed number.
>
>What do you think?
>Are we more than 49,000; less? or is 49,000 HTs about right?
>René J.
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do you Yahoo!?
>Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
>_______________________________________________
>Histonet mailing list
>Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
>
>_______________________________________________
>Histonet mailing list
>Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
>
>_______________________________________________
>Histonet mailing list
>Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
>
>_______________________________________________
>Histonet mailing list
>Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make
>PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
>_______________________________________________
>Histonet mailing list
>Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
_______________________________________________
Histonet mailing list
Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
_______________________________________________
Histonet mailing list
Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
---------------------------------
Do you Yahoo!?
Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
---------------------------------
Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.
More information about the Histonet
mailing list