[Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
Rene J Buesa
rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com
Fri Oct 6 09:46:42 CDT 2006
Vinnie:
Those Mohs techs doing, as you say, beautiful H&E sections used in private practice diagnoses could also be included.
Why not if their work is used for the diagnoses. If they are limited to H&E, many early job-trained histotech were also limited to H&E.
Yes, they could also be included.
Any idea on how many they are?
I agree that without a solid base all these numbers are just "guesstimates" but could be useful to have at least a rough idea on our "potential" as a trade.
Sorry about your "clottered" computer on the topic but you could either wait to answer later or delete them altogether (but I know you would not do it! You are too involved in your trade!).
René J.
Vinnie Della Speranza <dellav <@t> musc.edu> wrote:
Rene,
I'm trying to avoid the thread because my employer is expecting me to work and this thread will likely include a lively dialogue that may go on for some time, in part because your original question is provocative in that realistically there isn't a way to come up with anything more accurate than a guess. I've already found about fifteen messages in my inbox on this topic alone this morning.
I will ask you one provocative question. are you including Mohs techs in the number you are seeking? I know Mohs techs who call themselves HT's yet their knowledge of histology is limited to cryosections of skin with H&E's. They cut beautiful sections but anything beyond skin or H&E is foreign to them. If you include them you now have countless physician practices across the country employing one or more in this capacity, most of whom are not HT certified.
Vinnie
>>> Rene J Buesa 10/06/06 09:16AM >>>
Vinnie:
I don't see why you are desperately trying to avoid this thread (I do not call it a discussion) if you have any solid numbers like the one on 20,000 registered HTs.
It is just a simple question not about how many certified histotechs there are, but rather how many persons do the daily job of preparing slides and doing procedures that allow the diagnosis for the pathologists.
Are we 49,000?; less?; more?
You know this is something I have been pondering for quite some time now, as I once wrote you. And they are your potential constituency as president of the NSH!
René J.
Vinnie Della Speranza wrote:
I'm trying desperately to stay out of this discussion but I can help with the number you've requested. the NSH is making plans to celebrate the 20,000th HT(ASCP) which is expected to occur this Fall. I don't have #s of HTLs but it is of course much smaller.
Vinnie
>>> "Douglas D Deltour" 10/05/06 05:18PM >>>
If that is the case then we should be able to get somewhat of an accurate
number from ASCP. I would assume???
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Maybe, but it would make the number a whole lot more accurate if only the
registered technicians would be accounted for. Otherwise, why even bother to
have a registration.
That doesn't have anything do to with the quality of registered verses
nonregistered histotechs. I know from experience they can do just as good of
a job. But you have to draw the line somewhere.
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Can of worms...
If you pass a NAACLS accredited school or get a degree in histology then why
wouldn't you call them a HT?
Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
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I think that certification should be the issue.
One does not truly have the title of HTif they
have not passed the registry exam. JMHO.
At 02:47 PM 10/5/2006, Rene J Buesa wrote:
>No, certification is not the issue, just how
>many HTs there are, how many of us share this art of histology?
> René J.
>
>"LaDonna G. Elpers" wrote:
> Our facility has 6 Histology Technicians, my
> guess would be that there are probably another
> 15 in our town. The question would be if we
> talking about those certified only? We are
> currently half and half, 3 certified and 3 not.
>
>LaDonna G. Elpers, BA, HT(ASCP)
>Manager, Histology
>BASi (Bioanalytical Systems, Inc.)
>10424 Middle Mount Vernon Rd - Mount Vernon, IN 47620
>P 812.985.5900 ext 128
>F 812.985.3403
>lelpers <@t> bioanalytical.com
>www.bioanalytical.com
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>What about those of us who are doing the work of four people? Does that
>count?
>JO'C
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>Hi Rene, I enjoyed your recent article in the new Advance, was very
>interesting! I am only one in my facility, a general hospital. If you are
>taking count!! :)
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>You have now inspired me to re-new my severly overdue membership with the
>NSH.
>Cheers from West Palm!
>Kari :)
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>Kari Marie Zajic HTL,MLT
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>[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Rene J
>Buesa
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>Subject: [Histonet] Histotechs: how many are we nationwide?
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>Dear Histonet subscriber:
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>The US Census does NOT recognize histotechs (HTs) as a category of
>professionals (the NSH is going to try to do something about that during
>2007) so we do not know how many we are. Some indirect calculations are
>needed to answer that question.
>According to the US Census bureau:
>
>1- there are 5,193 general and surgical hospitals and perhaps 95% of
>them have a histology laboratory = 5,000 labs
>2- the average number of HTs per lab = 9 (range from 1 to 15 or more in
>some).
>So, in hospital settings there could be 5,000 x 9 = 45,000 HTs
>
>3- There are 4,084 institutions of higher education and perhaps 50% have
>some sort of histology lab, veterinary, marine, research, botany, etc. =
>2,000 histology labs.
>4- those experimental labs have an average of 2 HTs (between 1 and 5,
>sometimes up to 10)
>So, in universities there could be 2,000 x 2 = 4,000 HTs
>
>Adding both = 49,000 histotechs nationwide.
>
>If membership to the NSH in 2006 (4,400 members) is any indicator (and
>usually prestigious professional societies are able to have a membership
>of roughly 10% of the profession) it can be said that the 4,400 members in
>2006 = 9% of the proposed number.
>
>What do you think?
>Are we more than 49,000; less? or is 49,000 HTs about right?
>René J.
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