[Histonet] Expired antibodies...for immunos..

[Patsy Ruegg]

I agree that it is idiotic to not allow the use of expired (perfectly
validated) antibodies, but please don't throw your expired antibodies down
the drain just because CAP tells you they can not be used any more.  We can
use those in research and teaching.  I will provide a fedx shipping number
to anyone willing to send me their expired antibodies.
Best regards,
Patsy 


Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
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-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe Nocito
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:06 PM
To: Bryan Hewlett; KMB1904 <@t> aol.com; histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Expired antibodies...for immunos..

only when it's convenient for the other person.

Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Hewlett" <bhewlett <@t> cogeco.ca>
To: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>; <KMB1904 <@t> aol.com>;
<histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Expired antibodies...for immunos..


> Hey Joe,
>
> I'm with you!
> The disposal of a expensive, validated, working reagent, just because 
> of some mindless arbitrary date rule makes absolutely no sense!
> I thought that we were in the era of evidence-based medicine, whatever 
> happened?
>
> Bryan Hewlett
> Consultant technologist
> Anatomic Pathology
> Quality Management Program - Laboratory Services Ontario, Canada.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>
> To: <KMB1904 <@t> aol.com>; <histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Expired antibodies...for immunos..
>
>
>> Oh boy,
>> I get to get flamed again.
>> JCAHO and CAP do not let you use expired reagents, including antibodies.
>> therefore, everyone gets to through money down the drain time and 
>> time again.
>>    I called CAP and talked to a person who got very defensive when I 
>> asked him to give the rule that says we can not use expired antibodies.
>> He referred me to the U.S. National Register. I'm sorry, I don't have 
>> that information with right now but I'm sure someone will let me know.
>>    My beef is, if you run a known positive control with every run, 
>> you are, in essence, revalidating that antibody. Once that antibody 
>> doesn't work, replace it with one that has not expired. I know this 
>> causes a repeat and maybe a delay in reporting the results, but ask 
>> your pathologists if they would want a one day delay, or throw 
>> thousands of dollars down the sink.
>>    When I was supervising the immuno lab at the AFIP, we froze 
>> concentrated antibodies at -70 C and they still worked up to 10 years 
>> later. Now, you can't even do that. A big waste, that what it is, a 
>> big waste.
>>    Let Flaming Friday begin.
>>
>> Joe Nocito BS, HT(ASCP)QIHC
>> Histology Manager
>> Pathology Reference Lab
>> San Antonio, TX
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <KMB1904 <@t> aol.com>
>> To: <histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:23 PM
>> Subject: [Histonet] Expired antibodies...for immunos..
>>
>>
>>> How does JCAHO handle expired antibodies if you have them...and are 
>>> using them...
>>>  Is it ok ....or not??
>>>   Kat
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