[Histonet] Thanks for the Input

Wed Apr 5 04:33:20 CDT 2006

Geez I'm losing this!!!! Does the army make cakes? I thought they shot
rifles and things.

You get promoted if you can make a good cake but not if you shoot straight?

Lost it totally.

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-----Original Message-----
From: DDDeltour <@t> mar.med.navy.mil [mailto:DDDeltour <@t> mar.med.navy.mil] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:16 AM
To: lowman034 <@t> yahoo.com; vazquezr <@t> ohsu.edu; Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com;
Heather.A.Harper <@t> pcola.med.navy.mil
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Thanks for the Input

It seems lately some people take bits and pieces of posts and twist them
around for argument sake. I am sure you are not quoting me?? 

I can speak on the part of the Navy only. Maybe I should have stated that on
my last post. As for the Navy ...While the others are out selling cookies
others must stay behind and pick up the slack. These cookie sellers place
the bake sale on the evaluation which earns them the bullet for a higher
mark. The higher mark means a better chance for promotion. A more
experienced and certified tech may not have the time to sell these cookies
for whatever reason or because they care more about the REAL job than
playing Martha Stewart. Green food coloring is not a counterstain. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Low [mailto:lowman034 <@t> yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:20 PM
To: Deltour, Douglas D. (HM2); vazquezr <@t> ohsu.edu;
Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com; Harper, Heather A., CIV
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Thanks for the Input

Douglas,

Military personnel DO NOT make rank by working at some
bake sales!  Are you insinuating Master Chief Petty
Officers, Sergeant Majors, and Chief Master Sargeants
made rank selling cookies? Rubbish!

I am an Air Force Master Sargeant, worked in histology
for over 17 years out of my 20+ years service. I
worked at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in
Washington DC from 1997-2000 and had the pleasure to
work for the Army, Navy, and civilians histology
technicians and managers.  The promotions I did see
were from hard work not only from the job but to the
military and civilian communities.  It's called the
whole person concept!

In the future please screen your e-mail for
appropriateness before you broadcast to a large
audience like histonet.  

Dave Low, MSgt,USAF
HT(ASCP)QIHC

--- DDDeltour <@t> mar.med.navy.mil wrote:

> I work in this environment everyday. I see both
> sides (military and
> civilian) taking shots at each other instead of
> working as a team. I am soon
> leaving the service and you could not pay me enough
> money to supervise or
> work in a military facility. I understand Heather
> and her frustration of
> being left to do the job BUT the military requires
> its members to do things
> outside of the job to get promoted. That is a fact.
> I am living it. I see
> people in my own field get promoted because they did
> some BS bake sale but
> they can't even do a GMS. You can either find a way
> to work it out or find a
> new job. As for the military Pathologist....well
> they are in charge. They
> like that. Everything will change again when the
> next one transfers in. That
> is part of being in a military facility. I have seen
> it for years. The best
> thing to do is go with the flow or just go. I am
> going. Good luck. 
> 
> Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> On Behalf Of Robyn
> Vazquez
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 12:29 PM
> To: Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com; Harper, Heather A.,
> CIV
> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Thanks for the Input
> 
> Sounds like you both work hard...I have been on both
> sides of the
> fence...keep up the good work...she needs all the
> support you can give her
> civilian or military!
> Just my two cents...
> 
> Robyn
> OHSU
> 
> >>> "Jackie M O'Connor" <Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com>
> 4/3/2006 8:49 AM >>>
> I am thankful and grateful for anyone who ever
> signed up for military 
> service - ever - regardless of their job
> description.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Heather.A.Harper <@t> pcola.med.navy.mil 
> Sent by: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> 04/03/2006 10:20 AM
> 
>  
>         To:     histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
>         cc:     (bcc: Jackie M
> O'Connor/LAKE/GPRD/ABBOTT)
>         Subject:        [Histonet] Thanks for the
> Input
> 
> 
> I want to thank everybody who responded to my
> message titled..Need Input. 
> I
> work for the DOD and I miss simply having a system
> in place. I agree one 
> has
> to be flexible, but when you work with military,
> they are entitled to 1 hr
> lunch and 1 hour of PT. My tech works 7-4 and I work
> 6-2. I embed, she 
> cuts
> and stains, I gross, accession, order supplies,
> admit bodies in and out of
> the morgue, set up for autopsies, frozens, and when
> my tech has to get
> pulled to do her other command duties, it leaves me
> holding the bag.  It
> does get over whelming, and every 2-3 yrs, I get new
> pathologists rotating
> through. I have worked with 7 pathologists in 6 yrs,
> and reservists, and
> this one I just do not know what to think. Just
> keeping an open mind. 
> Thanks
> again everybody. Be thankful you are in the civilian
> world.
> 
>  
> 
> Heather
> 
>  
> 
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