[Histonet] automated versus manual for practical(practicaltes tingcenters?)

[Dawson, Glen]

Connie,

What did you do?  I would suggest terminating him/her immediately.  You
couldn't even demote that person to a lab aide in my opinion since not
knowing how to de-paraffinize slides by hand would disqualify them for that
job as well.  That level of ignorance is a slap in the face to all
histotechs and screams of problems with this individual down the line so nip
it in the bud.  To not even know how to de-paraffinize shows a complete
disregard for knowing the very basics of histology and a lack of ability to
put 2 and 2 together.

Any registered histotech that does not know how to de-paraffinize without
the aid of a machine should have their certification revoked and needs to
pursue another career choice.

Just My Opinion,
Glen Dawson

-----Original Message-----
From: connie grubaugh [mailto:conniegrubaugh <@t> hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:54 PM
To: JWEEMS <@t> sjha.org; MadaryJ <@t> MedImmune.com;
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] automated versus manual for
practical(practicaltestingcenters?)



   I  think it is past time to stop the practical.  So many of the stains
   are  done  on machines.  I have had a " registered tech," that did not
   know how to run slides manually to just de-parffinize them.

   Why can't there just be more questions on the exam of theory ect. ect.
   ect.
   And that is my 2 cents worth.......

   Connie G.
   >From:   "Weems,   Joyce"   <JWEEMS <@t> sjha.org>  >To:  "Madary,  Joseph"
   <MadaryJ <@t> MedImmune.com>,<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>  >Subject:
   RE: [Histonet] automated versus manual for
   practical(practicaltestingcenters?)  >Date:  Tue,  5 Apr 2005 15:42:36
   -0400  >  >Perhaps  its  time  to  stop  the  practical - do the other
   disciplines  do  a  practical?  It's  all  so  subjective. I think our
   problem  as  a  laboratory  science is that we do not make diagnoses -
   that  sets  us  apart  from  the  others.  And  some pathologists have
   promoted  the separation by not respecting us for how important we are
   to  them. My belief is that a pathologist is only as good as the tech.
   Another  2  cents  worth.  >  >Joyce > >Joyce Weems >Pathology Manager
   >Saint  Joseph's  Hospital >5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE >Atlanta, GA
   30342  >404-851-7376  -  Phone  >404-851-7831  -  Fax > >-----Original
   Message-----      >From:     histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
   >[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On     Behalf    Of
   Madary,   >Joseph   >Sent:  Tuesday,  April  05,  2005  3:12  PM  >To:
   histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu   >Subject:   [Histonet]   automated
   versus manual for practical(practical >testingcenters?) > > >As most I
   did all three practicals manually getting the first in 1982. I have to
   say  though  as  a confirmed cheapskate what of the folks that rely on
   the lab they are in to do the work and the supervisor will not approve
   of  purchasing reagents for manual, and even if the person paid, would
   have an issue with the the regs/safety issues of getting new chemicals
   in  the  lab?  I am all for punishing new people in the lab and making
   their  life difficult espceially those non certified types, oh my God!
   What  if  they have no access to manual methods? Maybe the folks using
   automated methods should have to do more or something. How far does it
   go,  coverslipping?  I  mean  one could argue buying a staining kit is
   just  as bad as automation since you are not` making reagents. I think
   this  is an important issue as you all have pointed out. Personally, I
   feel there should be testing centers for the practical. Hey there is a
   money    making   idea   that   someone   can   steal   from   me!   >
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