[Histonet] automated versus manual for practical(practicaltestingcenters?)

Bill Sinai bills <@t> icpmr.wsahs.nsw.gov.au
Tue Apr 5 16:14:34 CDT 2005

Dear Histonetters,

On of my mentors and probably the Pathologist I learn most pathology from
always said we work in Histopathology.  "Histo" referring to the histotechs
function while "pathology" referred to the Pathologist function, a team

Bill Sinai
Laboratory Manager
Tissue Pathology, ICPMR
Westmead NSW 2145
Ph 02 9845 7774

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Weems,
Sent: Wednesday, 06 April 2005 5:43 AM
To: Madary, Joseph; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] automated versus manual for

Perhaps its time to stop the practical - do the other disciplines do a
practical? It's all so subjective. I think our problem as a laboratory
science is that we do not make diagnoses - that sets us apart from the
others. And some pathologists have promoted the separation by not respecting
us for how important we are to them. My belief is that a pathologist is only
as good as the tech. Another 2 cents worth.


Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
Saint Joseph's Hospital
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE
Atlanta, GA 30342
404-851-7376 - Phone
404-851-7831 - Fax

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]On Behalf Of Madary,
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:12 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] automated versus manual for practical(practical

As most I did all three practicals manually getting the first in 1982.  I
have to say though as a confirmed cheapskate what of the folks that rely on
the lab they are in to do the work and the supervisor will not approve of
purchasing reagents for manual, and even if the person paid, would have an
issue with the the regs/safety issues of getting new chemicals in the lab?
I am all for punishing new people in the  lab and making their life
difficult espceially those non certified types, oh my God! What if they have
no access to manual methods?  Maybe the folks using automated methods should
have to do more or something.  How far does it go, coverslipping?  I mean
one could argue buying a staining kit is just as bad as automation since you
are not` making reagents.  I think this is an important issue as you all
have pointed out.  Personally, I feel there should be testing centers for
the practical. Hey there is a money making idea that someone can steal from

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