[Histonet] Re: Newly designed Labs

Tue Jan 20 16:47:17 CST 2004

All these are good comments, but don't forget the people (numbers) who might
work in these areas as a human body gives off heat as well as equipment.
Most airconditioning is rated against human heat production and not the
extra heat of any equipment and the combined load is quite often large.  I
cannot remember the exact figure but I think the human rating is equivalent
to a 500w element.

Easily height adjusted benches are also essential to account for varying
stature of individuals. Particularly in microtomy.

Bill Sinai
Laboratory Manager
Tissue Pathology, ICPMR
Westmead NSW 2145
Australia
Ph 02 9845 7774

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Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Newly designed Labs

These are very good observations, I experienced similar problems in the past
with lab not designed to accomodate the equipment size, proximity to water
for stainers for example, cabinetery too low to be able to fit any equipment
on counters etc. the ventilation is definitely something to be planned as
you do not want any fumes in the rooms but not too much air draft in the
cutting area either but good fresh air where you have heat producing
equipment.
Including the techs in the planning is a must if you do not want to remodel
your lab all the time once it's done!

Good luck!

p.s. I remember a workshop on the subject at the NSH meeting a few years
ago, maybe someone has more details or a copy of the hand out for you!

Brigitte

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From: Starkus, Laurie [mailto:StarkusL <@t> ummhc.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:52 AM
To: 'Cheasty, Sandra'; Linda Jenkins; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Newly designed Labs

Sandra makes an excellent point here.  I'm currently working in a Mohs lab
that was just designed three years ago.  Because no one thought to ask me
(the only tech working here), no one considered that a cryostat generates a
LOT of heat as it cools.  Consequently, we are running a room air
conditioner 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year.  Yes, it was -10
outside this past week, and we are running an air conditioner.  And, you
still can't close the door or the air conditioner can't keep up.

Also, they forgot to include room for the explosives cabinet (for ethanol)
and our microscope is behind the door.  So, when someone is using the
microscope, the door isn't all the way open.  Our surgeon sometimes gets hit
in the butt with the door as people try to get into the lab.

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From: Cheasty, Sandra [mailto:SCheasty <@t> ahs.llumc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 11:39 AM
To: Linda Jenkins; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Newly designed Labs

Frank,
	The biggest mistakes I've seen in designing labs or Information
Systems is not including the end-user's input.  Often the pathologists will
have the last say, but they are not the ones who are processing the
specimens from start to finish. You can avoid a lot of expensive changes
after the fact, (and a lot of hurt feelings from staff) by having an avenue
for staff to give input and keeping everyone aware of how things are
proceeding.  Whether the ideas are good and used, or not-so-good and
discarded, I have found it worthwhile to include input from everyone.
	Also, if you have access to Microsoft Visio, (sort of a simple CAD
software program) you can lay out the space easily and throw in counters and
sinks and fume hoods and desks and re-arrange them in endless ways to give
you ideas.

Sandy

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Jenkins
Sent:	Tuesday, January 20, 2004 08:25
To:	histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject:	[Histonet] Re: Newly designed Labs

Hi, Frank,
         Based on my previous experience with designing a new lab, the one
thing we didn't check on was the location of the critical power
outlets.  The electrical people put in the correct number BUT they put them
all on one wall.  Also, we needed at least one - two more sinks.
         Have fun planning!
         Linda

Linda Jenkins, HT
Clemson University
Dept. of Bioengineering
Clemson, SC 29634-0905
864.656.5553
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/bio/research/histo/histo.htm

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