[Histonet] New York Qualifications for Histology Supervisor

Thu Feb 21 13:56:21 CST 2019

In my opinion this issue is related to the fact that HT's are not required to have BS degrees, like Med Techs and Cytotechs, and that clia/cap does not require ASCP certification to work in a histology lab.  We have always been the red headed step child in the lab because of this.  This is why NSH has fought so hard to at least require the AS degree with certain science credits.  As far as I know, unless it has changed CLIA doesn't even require that those working in histology be ASCP certified.  I may be behind on that rule???  I know many very qualified folks who are stars in histology who do not have a BS degree, but I think those times are behind us, as sheep skin seems to count for more than experience in this new world.  It is a shame because that sheep skin does not a good Histotech make, on it's own.

Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg IHC Consulting
40864 E Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
H 303-644-4538
C 720-281-5406
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From: Perl , Alison <aperl at cmmedical.com>
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] New York Qualifications for Histology Supervisor

Very exciting to hear NSH is working on it with CLIA! I hope the NYS legislature/OOP will take cues from them

And I just emailed my rep :)

Alison Perl, HTL(ASCP)CM
Anatomic Pathology Manager
(914) 302-8424
aperl at cmmedical.com

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NSH is currently working directly with CLIA to addresss issues such as this.  Stay tuned!

Clare J. Thornton, HTL(ASCP)CM, QIHCCM
Lead Immunohistochemistry Tech
Dahl-Chase Diagnostic Services
417 State Street, Suite 540
Bangor, ME 04401
cthornton at dahlchase.com

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This is good information, Alison.  Thank you for sharing it.  Our Histology Program is in CT and I have many students from the southern part of the state, making NY licensing a viable option for them. It would be interesting to note how NY is defining “judgment” when it comes to the role of histotechnicians/histotechnologists.  I sit on the Educator’s Task force for the NSH and will bring this to their attention as well.

Kelli Goodkowsky, M.Ed., HT (ASCP)
Program Director, Histologic Science
President, Faculty Senate
Goodwin College
(860) 727-6917
kgoodkowsky at goodwin.edu<mailto:kgoodkowsky at goodwin.edu>
http://www.goodwin.edu

On Feb 21, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Perl , Alison via Histonet <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu<mailto:histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>> wrote:

Hi Melissa
This is true, and a source of my neverending frustration with NYS Office of Professions. Stephanie Shulman (stephanie.shulman at health.ny.gov<mailto:stephanie.shulman at health.ny.gov>) is a good person at NYS to get clarification, but she will reiterate the same.

NYS has explained to me that "histotechs don't exercise judgment" and thus are not qualified to take on the role of supervisor, even for a histology-only laboratory. The supervisors here in my lab and myself all have Clinical Lab Technologist licenses, from when they were grandfathered back in 2007. I have techs who went to school specifically for Histology, but can never become supervisors. I don't know what anyone will do for the next generation of supervisors - your situation is a real fear.

Anyone in NYS who would like to raise this issue with your representatives, I encourage you to do so!!

Alison Perl, HTL(ASCP)CM
Anatomic Pathology Manager
CareMount Medical
(914) 302-8424
aperl at cmmedical.com<mailto:aperl at cmmedical.com>

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From: Melissa Owens via Histonet [mailto:histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 11:21 AM
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Hello,

I have a question about the requirements to be a supervisor in New York. New York dept. of Ed states qualifications for a Medical Technologist/Laboratory Supervisor and a Cytotechnologist/Cytology Supervisor but no where does it mention qualifications for a Histototech/Histology Supervisor. So therefore, I have heard that in New York, a Histology Supervisor must qualify under the Medical Technologist/Laboratory Supervisor qualifications statues. This seems impossible to me as this would have to be an individual who becomes a Medical Technologist and by random transfers into a histology role then becomes a supervisor. Does anyone out there in New York legally qualify your histology supervisors who have a bachelors degree but were not former Medical Technologists? Thank you for any help as I have intensely scoped the New York department of Education website in my frustrations.

By the way, I am asking this because I have a Day Shift 7:30am-4pm Monday-Friday Histology Supervisor position in the New York Metropolitan area with these requirements and I don't know if there is a way around them. Thank you!

Melissa Owens, CHP (ASA)
President, Laboratory Staffing
Allied Search Partners

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