[Histonet] Histonet Digest, Vol 160, Issue 1
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Wed Mar 1 13:23:26 CST 2017
All,
I think John Frazier is exactly spot-on with his e-mail. This is not a single variable equation solved easily. It is complex and not so easy as it might seem for a recycler sales pitch. I am FOR recycling and the environment whenever it is at all possible in any situation but there is not an easy answer that covers every lab.
One thing that John alluded to, and has stuck with me for years and years, is the concept of "poor or inconsistent quality of the end product" . I've read numerous e-mails of the xylene coming off a recycler as being "purer" than the original. I just can't wrap my mind around that when multi-billion dollar fractional distillation mega-complexes will supply alcohol or xylene and now a lab recycler is making it "purer and better" than when purchased? When I was at a biotech company a while back we followed many lots of xylene and reagent alcohol from purchase to use to recycling by sending samples to outside chemistry analysis labs doing high-level testing of purity and contaminations. While in general the recycler had worked OK it was not producing product chemically consistent or optimally pure. It was "OK". While histo-pathology labored in a world of H&E sections ONLY, possibly those re-used reagents were and still are very, very acceptable. But I wonder about when that tissue is going to be used for very sensitive IHC testing (Her2) or PCR to look at mutations or FISH to look at different lymphoma's? Where tissue processing and quality is absolutely critical.
I'm FOR recycling if possible but it is not a universal panacea in my opinion. What about the patient tissue for sophisticated testing?
Ray Koelling
Lecture Faculty
UW School of Medicine-WWAMI, Spokane
----- Original Message -----
From: "John via Histonet Frazier" <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
To: "Histonet (histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu)" <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 10:43:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histonet Digest, Vol 160, Issue 1
One last statement about recycling Xylene and Alcohol and I do not have a
dog in the fight. *Many labs I visit have recyclers and many of those do
not use them any more due to poor or inconsistent quality of the end
product and overall disillusionment of the money or time they thought they
would save.*
I am not telling labs not to recycle but if they ask me, I tell them what I
have seen and give them some of the data around the process measurements we
have collected.
Some variables that are critical in gauging the value-add or non value-add
are:
- Cost of Waste disposal per gallon
- Fully Burdened Salary of the lab individual/s that currently handle
reagent changes (H&E stainer, Tissue Processor) vs. that of lab
individual/s that will be or are handling the the recyclable reagents
- Time to retrieve fresh reagents vs. time to move the recyclable
reagent to and from the recycler.
- Cost of PPE, i.e. respirator mask, gloves
- Cost per square foot of Storage space for Hazardous waste vs. recycler
foot print. This is an opportunity cost that recycling may provide for
other types of storage.
- Time to make dilutions of alcohol (100% to 95%, 85%,etc.)
- Time to measure the concentrations of the recycled alcohol
- Time for corrections if the concentrations is too low or too high
- Is there a xylene substitute or instrument that does not require
xylene and or alcohol
- Others
Your have to be objective about the process measurements of making the
decision. What am I gaining vs. what am getting vs. what am I giving up.
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> 4. Re: Recycled reagents in VIP processor (Gareth Davis)
> 5. Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 159, Issue 24 (Joanne Clark)
> 6. Cassette Printers (Eileen Akemi Allison)
> 7. cassette printer additional request (Eileen Akemi Allison)
> 8. Re: cassette printer additional request (Blazek, Linda)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Frazier, John" <john.frazier at roche.com>
> To: Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Margaryan, Naira" <NMargaryan at luriechildrens.org>, Gareth Davis <
> garethdavisyuma at gmail.com>, "histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <
> histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, "naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu" <
> naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 14:30:46 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> As a six sigma consultant to histology laboratories, it has been my
> experience that recycling xylene and alcohol overall is not a cost
> saver. When you factor in both capital dollars and operational
> dollars, the savings is neutral. In addition to the neutral cost in
> recycling, you have to concern yourself with the quality of your in
> product on a daily basis. The last piece in the equation is the
> handling of Xylene with multiple touch points in between. A movement
> within the histology world has begun with handling xylene (hazard
> waste) as little as possible and/or reducing or eliminating its use
> where possible.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 27, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > When people say they are saving money by recycling reagents I always
> wonder
> > if they are including tech time (to run the still) in their calculations.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Margaryan, Naira via Histonet <
> > histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL - IT IS WASTE OF MONEY....
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Naira
> >>
> >>
> >> Ranked nationally in all 10 pediatric specialties by U.S. News & World
> >> Report (LCHOC Ver 1.0)
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> >> From: Gareth Davis via Histonet [histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:23 PM
> >> To: histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >> Subject: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I was always told not to use recycled reagents, i.e. Alcohol and
> Xylene, in
> >> processors. I am using a VIP 300, refurbished, and I would rather not
> use
> >> recycled reagents in it. But, during the last CAP inspection they
> >> suggested I use the recycled to save money. And now my administration
> >> wants to cut cost. Just wanted to know what labs were doing.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ms. Gareth B. Davis, B.S., HT, QIHC (ASCP)cm
> >> Yuma Gastroenterology
> >> Yuma, AZ 85364
> >> 928-248-5259
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> To: "'histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu'" <
> histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 19:50:49 +0000
> Subject: [Histonet] Leica CM1950
> We are interested in purchasing the Leica CM 1950 cryostat. Would love to
> hear your comments, good, bad or indifferent...
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Mary Ann Clements, B.S.
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Margaryan, Naira" <naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu>
> To: "Frazier, John" <john.frazier at roche.com>, Jay Lundgren <
> jaylundgren at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Margaryan, Naira" <NMargaryan at luriechildrens.org>, Gareth Davis <
> garethdavisyuma at gmail.com>, "histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <
> histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 20:39:10 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> Absolutely agreed!
>
> Naira
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frazier, John [mailto:john.frazier at roche.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:31 PM
> To: Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com>
> Cc: Margaryan, Naira <NMargaryan at luriechildrens.org>; Gareth Davis <
> garethdavisyuma at gmail.com>; histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Margaryan,
> Naira <naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
>
> As a six sigma consultant to histology laboratories, it has been my
> experience that recycling xylene and alcohol overall is not a cost saver.
> When you factor in both capital dollars and operational dollars, the
> savings is neutral. In addition to the neutral cost in recycling, you have
> to concern yourself with the quality of your in product on a daily basis.
> The last piece in the equation is the handling of Xylene with multiple
> touch points in between. A movement within the histology world has begun
> with handling xylene (hazard
> waste) as little as possible and/or reducing or eliminating its use where
> possible.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 27, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > When people say they are saving money by recycling reagents I always
> > wonder if they are including tech time (to run the still) in their
> calculations.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Margaryan, Naira via Histonet <
> > histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL - IT IS WASTE OF MONEY....
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Naira
> >>
> >>
> >> Ranked nationally in all 10 pediatric specialties by U.S. News &
> >> World Report (LCHOC Ver 1.0)
> >>
> >>
> >> This message contains confidential information and is intended only
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> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: Gareth Davis via Histonet [histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:23 PM
> >> To: histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >> Subject: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I was always told not to use recycled reagents, i.e. Alcohol and
> >> Xylene, in processors. I am using a VIP 300, refurbished, and I
> >> would rather not use recycled reagents in it. But, during the last
> >> CAP inspection they suggested I use the recycled to save money. And
> >> now my administration wants to cut cost. Just wanted to know what labs
> were doing.
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ms. Gareth B. Davis, B.S., HT, QIHC (ASCP)cm Yuma Gastroenterology
> >> Yuma, AZ 85364
> >> 928-248-5259
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Histonet mailing list
> >> Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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> >
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Gareth Davis <garethdavisyuma at gmail.com>
> To: "Margaryan, Naira" <naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu>
> Cc: "Frazier, John" <john.frazier at roche.com>, Jay Lundgren <
> jaylundgren at gmail.com>, "Margaryan, Naira" <NMargaryan at luriechildrens.org>,
> "histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 13:57:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> When using Xylene in a lab, it's my opinion that the savings is associated
> with the size of the lab. I am in a very small lab, where I am the only
> Histotech. I recycle both alcohol and Xylene and monitor both closely.
> For me, it would cost effective to recycle and use as much as possible,
> instead of purchasing fresh. But, I agree, if it's a larger lab it may not
> be as cost effective. Also, if the lab is in the position to order a
> substitute for Xylene, where it would be cheaper, than that seems to be the
> optimum thing to do.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Margaryan, Naira <
> naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Absolutely agreed!
> >
> > Naira
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frazier, John [mailto:john.frazier at roche.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:31 PM
> > To: Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com>
> > Cc: Margaryan, Naira <NMargaryan at luriechildrens.org>; Gareth Davis <
> > garethdavisyuma at gmail.com>; histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
> Margaryan,
> > Naira <naira.margaryan at hsc.wvu.edu>
> > Subject: Re: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> >
> > As a six sigma consultant to histology laboratories, it has been my
> > experience that recycling xylene and alcohol overall is not a cost saver.
> > When you factor in both capital dollars and operational dollars, the
> > savings is neutral. In addition to the neutral cost in recycling, you
> have
> > to concern yourself with the quality of your in product on a daily basis.
> > The last piece in the equation is the handling of Xylene with multiple
> > touch points in between. A movement within the histology world has begun
> > with handling xylene (hazard
> > waste) as little as possible and/or reducing or eliminating its use where
> > possible.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 27, 2017, at 6:25 PM, Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > When people say they are saving money by recycling reagents I always
> > > wonder if they are including tech time (to run the still) in their
> > calculations.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Jay A. Lundgren, M.S., HTL (ASCP)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Margaryan, Naira via Histonet <
> > > histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >> WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AS WELL - IT IS WASTE OF MONEY....
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Naira
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ranked nationally in all 10 pediatric specialties by U.S. News &
> > >> World Report (LCHOC Ver 1.0)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This message contains confidential information and is intended only
> > >> for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you
> > >> should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify
> > >> the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by
> > >> mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission
> > >> cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could
> > >> be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete,
> > or contain viruses.
> > >> The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or
> > >> omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of
> > >> e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a
> > >> hard-copy version. (LCHOC VER 1.0)
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> From: Gareth Davis via Histonet [histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 2:23 PM
> > >> To: histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > >> Subject: [Histonet] Recycled reagents in VIP processor
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I was always told not to use recycled reagents, i.e. Alcohol and
> > >> Xylene, in processors. I am using a VIP 300, refurbished, and I
> > >> would rather not use recycled reagents in it. But, during the last
> > >> CAP inspection they suggested I use the recycled to save money. And
> > >> now my administration wants to cut cost. Just wanted to know what
> labs
> > were doing.
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Ms. Gareth B. Davis, B.S., HT, QIHC (ASCP)cm Yuma Gastroenterology
> > >> Yuma, AZ 85364
> > >> 928-248-5259
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Histonet mailing list
> > >> Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > >> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Histonet mailing list
> > >> Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > >> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ms. Gareth B. Davis, B.S., HT, QIHC (ASCP)cm
> Yuma Gastroenterology
> Yuma, AZ 85364
> 928-248-5259
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Joanne Clark <jclark at pcnm.com>
> To: "histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2017 21:37:10 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Histonet Digest, Vol 159, Issue 24
>
>
>
> Hi Allison, I talked to my safety guy and there isn't anything specific.
> They are telling you that because there is a fire hazard warning on
> formalin cubes, but we know that the change of it catching fire is slim to
> nil. They want you to use the same standards as with alcohol and xylene (1
> gallon per 100 square feet). It is all so dependent on who you have
> inspecting you and what their background is.
>
> Joanne Clark, HT
> Pathology Consultants of New Mexico
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 19:26:54 +0000
> From: "Eck, Allison" <aeck at dh.org>
> To: "'histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu'"
> <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Subject: [Histonet] square footage for formalin
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> Good afternoon,
> We have inspectors here and they are questioning the size of the room in
> the operating room where they keep their 5 gallon cube. Does anyone know
> of any square footage requirements for a room that where formalin is kept
> and used?
>
> Thank you in advance
> Allison
>
> Allison Eck, HTL(ASCP)cm,QLS, AHI(AMT)
> Lead Tech Histology
> Doylestown Hospital
> 595 W State St
> Doylestown, PA 18901
> 215-345-2264
> aeck at dh.org<mailto:aeck at dh.org>
>
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> To: Histonet <Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:23:16 -0800
> Subject: [Histonet] Cassette Printers
> Good morning Histoland!
>
> Our department is looking into purchasing a new cassette printer which has
> the capability of interfacing with our AP Easy LIS System. I am currently
> demoing a General Data ID/Positive CL-01 Laser Cassette Printer and label
> printer system. We are a fairly small lab with limited space so a small
> foot print is essential. We also do not need a multiple magazine.
>
> I would love to hear your comments, good, bad or indifferent…
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Akemi Allison BS, HT/HTL (ASCP)
> Pathology Manager
> Monterey Bay GI Consultants Laboratory
> 23 Upper Ragsdale Drive, Suite 200
> Monterey, CA 93940
> W: Email: aallison at montereygi.com <mailto:aallison at montereygi.com>
> H: Email: akemiat3377 at gmail.com <mailto:akemiat3377 at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Eileen Akemi Allison <akemiat3377 at gmail.com>
> To: Histonet <Histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 05:30:35 -0800
> Subject: [Histonet] cassette printer additional request
> Hi Again:
>
> I forgot to mention I am open to investigate other Cassette Printers other
> than the General Data Printer… AlOf course, price, and dependability is a
> big factor. Would love to hear your comments, good, bad or indifferent...
>
> Thanks in again!
>
> Akemi Allison BS, HT/HTL (ASCP)
> Pathology Manager
> Monterey Bay GI Consultants Laboratory
> 23 Upper Ragsdale Drive, Suite 200
> Monterey, CA 93940
> W: Email: aallison at montereygi.com <mailto:aallison at montereygi.com>
> H: Email: akemiat3377 at gmail.com <mailto:akemiat3377 at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Blazek, Linda" <lblazek at digestivespecialists.com>
> To: Eileen Akemi Allison <akemiat3377 at gmail.com>, "
> histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet at lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 09:50:13 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] cassette printer additional request
>
> We have the Primera Signature Cassette printer and like it a lot. Support
> is excellent but we haven't needed it much. Set up is easy. Printing is
> very good. We also have their slide printer that is interfaced with our
> LIS. It's sold by Creative Waste Solutions.
> http://cwsincorp.com/
> If you'd like any questions answered feel free to contact me.
>
> Linda Blazek HT (ASCP)
> Pathology Lab Manager
> GI Pathology of Dayton
> Digestive Specialists, Inc
> Phone: (937) 396-2623
> Email: lblazek at digestivespecialists.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eileen Akemi Allison via Histonet [mailto:histonet at lists.
> utsouthwestern.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 8:31 AM
> To: Histonet
> Subject: [Histonet] cassette printer additional request
>
> Hi Again:
>
> I forgot to mention I am open to investigate other Cassette Printers other
> than the General Data Printer… AlOf course, price, and dependability is a
> big factor. Would love to hear your comments, good, bad or indifferent...
>
> Thanks in again!
>
> Akemi Allison BS, HT/HTL (ASCP)
> Pathology Manager
> Monterey Bay GI Consultants Laboratory
> 23 Upper Ragsdale Drive, Suite 200
> Monterey, CA 93940
> W: Email: aallison at montereygi.com <mailto:aallison at montereygi.com>
> H: Email: akemiat3377 at gmail.com <mailto:akemiat3377 at gmail.com>
>
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Fax: 1-520-229-6819
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