[Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

[Marcum, Pamela A]

The really funny thing to me is, I know people who were OJT and no high school, just experience and hard work that I would trust with my tissue further than some of the newly trained degreed techs I have met.  These are people who decided Histology was their field and career and worked to learn more than anyone ever expected when they took them in and trained them from a much lower level in the lab or hospital.  They went on to learn IHC and anything else you could throw at them and at the lowest possible salary range.  Those are the people who make me proud and after 50 years in various areas of the field I still would hire and work with in a heartbeat.   Now times have changed and we need to advance the education and the fire that makes them want to excel in Histology as it continues to grow and advance.  

Despite the people who said molecular would replace or a machine in the 80s we are still needed and growing.  We just need to get the word out to the next generations that we are a great field however; we must first find a way to get the salary level up.  Unfortunately, that mean we are short people even longer as the two and four year degree requirements kick in.  The fact that no one in a Biology or Science degree program had ever heard of Histology as a career in clinical and research is our biggest obstacle to start.  We have sat quietly too long waiting for NSH and ASCP to help us get the recognition we deserve so we have to do ourselves by finding ways to drive home the need for HT/and HTL training in our fields.

Pam Marcum


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From: Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) [mailto:jqb7 <@t> cdc.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:14 PM
To: Carl Nituda; Marcum, Pamela A; Sue; Timothy Morken
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

I know someone personally that works in a hospital and it hast Histotechnologist by his name....and he never took the HTL exam. He said his hospital bases it on experience

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From: Carl Nituda [Cnituda <@t> nvdermatology.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 2:32 PM
To: Marcum, Pamela A; Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID); Sue; Timothy Morken
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

I personally think that a person just can't call themselves a Histotechnologist unless they went to school, training, and then pass the BOC by ASCP.  Anyone, I mean anyone can perform a job with proper training in any field but that doesn't mean they should have that title until they pass certification.

For hiring managers, I encourage you to hire certified candidates as priority and call them a Histotechnician, or Histotechnologist based on their certification.  If a person is doing Histology work and is uncertified, encourage them to be certified and just don't give them a title.  Imagine a world when people doing the job is actually certified like other professions, then you will get the respect from your colleagues that you deserve.  Changes for the future of the profession starts with good leaders.

Have a good and blessed week everyone.

Carl Nituda

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Marcum, Pamela A
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:53 AM
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Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, "any monkey could be trained to do my job".  I basically did not take the job I was interviewing for at the time.  At least the next interview went a lot better and I did take the job.

Pam

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Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

I agree, BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>as long as many pathologists think you can teach any trained dog how to section histology will never have the recognition those of us that have studied and trained deserve.

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM
To: Timothy Morken
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

This is a fight that we continue to have with hospital administration.  In my opinion histologists are just as important and needed as MT.  Even though there is an increase in automation in pathology the hands on of a histologists is most important.  The fact that hospital still consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not more of us.  It is quite frustrating.

Sue
TJUH
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