[Histonet] BS in Histotechnology

Thu Apr 23 13:37:03 CDT 2015

Yes, thank you! I hate when this statement is made. It is truly insulting. I have left organizations because the manager or director would say this right in meetings to us  histotechs and to others in the meeting. At the moment of that utterance, I knew I was in the wrong place! Cheers. 

Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC

> From: garreyf <@t> gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:33:37 -0400
> To: Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> CC: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; mturner <@t> CSILaboratories.com; JMacDonald <@t> mtsac.edu; Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsf.edu; PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu
> 
> I am trying to find (hire) a histotech and will make sure I don't use the words "trained monkey" in my interviews. . Ha ha.
> I truly value and appreciate a skilled and motivated histotech. I've had to train myself to cut my own sections in order to understand the process better. It is a great field;  it's like art to me.    There is no room for monkeys in my book. 
> Garrey
> 
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> > On Mar 24, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Stedman, Nancy <Nancy.Stedman <@t> buschgardens.com> wrote:
> > 
> > As a pathologist I'd like to apologize for all the pathologists who have made comments like this.. forget trained monkeys and dogs, most (all?) pathologists cannot cut slides either, at least not slides they'd want to try to read.   I know I can't.   
> > 
> > -Nancy Stedman 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Turner
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 4:26 PM
> > To: Paula Sicurello; Michael Ann Jones
> > Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Timothy Morken; Jennifer MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A
> > Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> > 
> > I once worked with a Pathologist who said she was in a group meeting of other pathologists when one of them blurted out that a trained monkey could cut slides.  My pathologist, having had the opportunity to review some cases from the offender's laboratory, promptly replied "Yes, and with the quality of your slides it looks like you did just that."  She shut down the other pathologist really quickly, and as far as I know, we never received another case to review from him.  My pathologist was not about to let that kind of arrogance stand.  She was one of the best bosses I ever had!
> > 
> > Mark Turner,  Ph.D., HT(ASCP)QIHC
> > Manager, Histology/IHC
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Paula Sicurello
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:47 PM
> > To: Michael Ann Jones
> > Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald; Marcum, Pamela A; Timothy Morken
> > Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> > 
> > I've had more than one pathologist tell me a monkey could do my job.
> > Though one of them said it with a smile and added "a very highly skilled and well trained monkey", he was one of the few who knew better.
> > 
> > How many of us monkeys have trained the whining and complaining residents how to do things correctly?
> > 
> > Paula
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Michael Ann Jones <mjones <@t> metropath.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> OMG Pam~ our pathologist said the exact same thing to us when we 
> >> started our Grossing training.
> >> Sheesh. . .
> >> Michael Ann
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 3/24/15, 11:52 AM, "Marcum, Pamela A" <PAMarcum <@t> uams.edu> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> That was nicer than the pathologist who told me years ago, "any 
> >>> monkey could be trained to do my job".  I basically did not take the 
> >>> job I was interviewing for at the time.  At least the next interview 
> >>> went a lot better and I did take the job.
> >>> 
> >>> Pam
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >>> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of 
> >>> Sanders, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID)
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:30 PM
> >>> To: Sue; Timothy Morken
> >>> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
> >>> Subject: RE: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> >>> 
> >>> I agree, BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>as long as many pathologists think you can 
> >>> teach any trained dog how to section histology will never have the 
> >>> recognition those of us that have studied and trained deserve.
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >>> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sue
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 12:59 PM
> >>> To: Timothy Morken
> >>> Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Jennifer MacDonald
> >>> Subject: Re: [Histonet] BS in Histotechnology
> >>> 
> >>> This is a fight that we continue to have with hospital administration.
> >>> In my opinion histologists are just as important and needed as MT.  
> >>> Even though there is an increase in automation in pathology the hands 
> >>> on of a histologists is most important.  The fact that hospital still 
> >>> consider a lower entry job is the reason there are not more of us.
> >>> It is quite frustrating.
> >>> 
> >>> Sue
> >>> TJUH
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