[Histonet] RE: Automated Special Stainer...

[Pam Marcum]

I understand the problem.  We have two Artisans and rarely have a time issue.  

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From: "Timothy Morken" <Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org> 
To: "Histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 12:58:02 PM 
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Automated Special Stainer... 

Brian wrote: "... one more thing.  The reagent tray capacity on the Artisan is about twice what it is on a Benchmark." 

Are the TAT's equal? When we loaded up our old artisan with slides (50) and full of reagents it took over 5 hours to finish - way past our deadline. So nobody wanted to use it that way so the techs resisted and wanted to do manual to get the slide out. We ended up putting only a few stains on it. 

We  are looking at doing specials the way we do immunos - on demand all day rather than in one batch in the AM. 

It seemed to me that the 20-slide units from Ventana allow small batches and run in parallel or allow staggered use. Buying a 50-slide capacity instrument and then putting only 20 slides at a time on it seems odd somehow. 


We looking at each of these as well and not sure yet which would serve us better. We do about 60-80 specials slides per day, and 13 stains give us 90% of our volume. 

Tim Morken 
Supervisor, Histology, Electron Microscopy and Neuromuscular Special Studies 
UC San Francisco Medical Center 
San Francisco, CA 

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Cooper, Brian 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:33 AM 
To: Sarah.Dysart <@t> stdavids.com; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Automated Special Stainer... 

Dako Artisan all the way!!!!!   I've used both systems (the Artisan in my old institution).  We currently have a few of the new Benchmarks on demo right now.  Thus far, we're not that impressed.  Frequently, there's variability on the silver stains (even in the same run,) and adjusting timing is nowhere near as flexible as on the Artisan.  Even if you take away the half hour for online deparaffinization, the stains take significantly longer on the Benchmarks (than the old Nexes we are still running in our lab).   Oh yeah, one more thing.  The reagent tray capacity on the Artisan is about twice what it is on a Benchmark.  You'll need two Benchmarks to do what one Artisan does, TATs being equal.         

Brian D. Cooper, HT (ASCP)CM | Histology Supervisor Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine Children's Hospital Los Angeles 
4650 Sunset Blvd MS#43- Los Angeles, CA 90027 bcooper <@t> chla.usc.edu 


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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah.Dysart <@t> stdavids.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:13 AM 
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
Subject: [Histonet] Automated Special Stainer... 

Opinions on Ventana versus Dako...Go! 

Sarah E. Dysart, BA, HT (ASCP), QIHC (ASCP) Pathology Supervisor St. David's North Austin Medical Center 
12221 North Mopac Expressway 
Austin, Texas  78758 
(512)901-1220 

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