[Histonet] RE: Help kappa and lambda IHC on bone marrow bxs

Cartun, Richard Richard.Cartun <@t> hhchealth.org
Mon Mar 24 14:50:43 CDT 2014


I would recommend using higher dilutions of your primary antibodies (try 1:20,000).  As you might expect, it's not unusual to see a lot of background immunoglobulin immunoreactivity in bone marrow specimens.  We actually have 2 antibody dilutions for both Kappa and Lambda that we run on the Leica Bond Max; a routine dilution and then a higher one for these types of situations.

Richard

Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
Director, Histology & Immunopathology
Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
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Our lab has started using Immunocal decal solution on our bone marrows. Most of our antibodies have improved except kappa and lambda. We do not do ISH. Kappa and lambda staining in the tonsil controls is good, The bone marrows are now very overstrained. We use DAKO polyclonals  at 1:10,000 with protease1 on the Ventana Ultra. Does anyone have a procedure?
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   1. specimen marking ink (Davis, Cassie)
   2. Leica Reichert Jung Cryocut 1800 (King, Laurie J)
   3. RE: specimen marking ink (Wanda.Smith <@t> HCAhealthcare.com)
   4. IHC on paraffin embedded skin tissue! (Jennifer Leigh)
   5. Re: RE: specimen marking ink (David Kemler)
   6. Re: RE: specimen marking ink (Bryan Llewellyn)
   7. Re: IHC on paraffin embedded skin tissue! (C.D.G.)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:03:35 -0400
From: "Davis, Cassie" <CDavis <@t> che-east.org>
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Hi Histo World, as I was cutting to day I was thinking why don't we see if we could get specimen marking ink directly from a tattoo vendor? When I first started in histo I was told the ink we use was actually tattoo ink. As we know as soon as somebody labels something as a "medical supply" the price is increased. Just a cost saving thought, I mentioned it to my immediate supervisor but she think it would be a liability issue. I thought we could "test/validate it on skin tissue left over from a mastectomy or extremity. Any thoughts?

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 17:45:48 +0000
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Hello all,

Looking for a manual for a Leica Reichert Jung Cryocut 1800.

Laurie

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:37:59 -0500
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Back in the 70's (when I was six, but still a histotech!!!) my Pathologist had gotten tattoo pigment powder in two colors and that's what we used to mark tissue.  Don't know where it came from and don't know where it went!!!
Happy Friday and Happy Weekend to everyone!!!
Wanda

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Subject: [Histonet] specimen marking ink

Hi Histo World, as I was cutting to day I was thinking why don't we see if we could get specimen marking ink directly from a tattoo vendor? When I first started in histo I was told the ink we use was actually tattoo ink. As we know as soon as somebody labels something as a "medical supply" the price is increased. Just a cost saving thought, I mentioned it to my immediate supervisor but she think it would be a liability issue. I thought we could "test/validate it on skin tissue left over from a mastectomy or extremity. Any thoughts?

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 13:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Histonet] IHC on paraffin embedded skin tissue!
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       Histonetters-

           I have a question about mouse skin samples----an IHC experiment has gone wrong and I am not sure why. I have a set of paraffin embedded mouse skin samples from an inflammatory model that were stained for F4/80. The end result is no color development after the addition of DAB. I use the DAB tablets from Sigma using the TBS buffer to dissolve the tablet. There is no color development, not even non-specific staining. Any ideas what the problem might be?????  I also performed a Proteinase K antigen retrevial step (using the ready made solution from Dako) for 15 minutest at 37 C as I was instructed to do. Thank you in advance for any insight!

Jennifer Oskins

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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:02:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Kemler <histotalk <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: specimen marking ink
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Actually, I have a tattoo supplier four miles away from me. Several years ago, I went to their warehouse to take a look an possibly make a purchase. As it turned out, I had to buy a gallon of each color and it worked out to be more than the standard tissue inks sold by the histology vendors.

Next stop - tattoo shop. Same story. The artist would sell a small 8 oz. bottle at cost, but it was still just a bit more than our vendors.

You can use Pelican drawing ink. It comes in several colors. It's around five something for an ounce+, much more than Davidson or one of the others.

Maybe someone will also chime in.

Dave



On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:39 PM, "Wanda.Smith <@t> HCAhealthcare.com" <Wanda.Smith <@t> HCAhealthcare.com> wrote:

Back in the 70's (when I was six, but still a histotech!!!) my Pathologist had gotten tattoo pigment powder in two colors and that's what we used to mark tissue.  Don't know where it came from and don't know where it went!!!
Happy Friday and Happy Weekend to everyone!!!
Wanda

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Pathology Supervisor
TRIDENT MEDICAL CENTER
9330 Medical Plaza Drive
Charleston, SC  29406
843-847-4586
843-847-4296 fax

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Subject: [Histonet] specimen marking ink

Hi Histo World, as I was cutting to day I was thinking why don't we see if we could get specimen marking ink directly from a tattoo vendor? When I first started in histo I was told the ink we use was actually tattoo ink. As we know as soon as somebody labels something as a "medical supply" the price is increased. Just a cost saving thought, I mentioned it to my immediate supervisor but she think it would be a liability issue. I thought we could "test/validate it on skin tissue left over from a mastectomy or extremity. Any thoughts?

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302-575-8095



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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:26:05 -0700
From: Bryan Llewellyn <llewllew <@t> shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: specimen marking ink
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You can buy tattoo ink in a bewildering array of colours from ebay quite
cheaply.

Many years ago I tried to buy tattoo ink from a tattoo parlour, but they
refused to sell it to me as they were concerned that it would be used
for rubbing into scratches and cuts for home made tattoos. I was in my
mid-50's at the time. Perhaps I looked strange with my beard and long
hair! I decided to buy the commercial tattoo ink kits from lab suppliers
for mixed colours, but used laundry blueing for most margins and kept
the tattoo inks for those occasions when it was important to know which
margin was which.

Bryan Llewellyn



David Kemler wrote:
> Actually, I have a tattoo supplier four miles away from me. Several years ago, I went to their warehouse to take a look an possibly make a purchase. As it turned out, I had to buy a gallon of each color and it worked out to be more than the standard tissue inks sold by the histology vendors.
>
> Next stop - tattoo shop. Same story. The artist would sell a small 8 oz. bottle at cost, but it was still just a bit more than our vendors.
>
> You can use Pelican drawing ink. It comes in several colors. It's around five something for an ounce+, much more than Davidson or one of the others.
>
> Maybe someone will also chime in.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:39 PM, "Wanda.Smith <@t> HCAhealthcare.com" <Wanda.Smith <@t> HCAhealthcare.com> wrote:
>
> Back in the 70's (when I was six, but still a histotech!!!) my Pathologist had gotten tattoo pigment powder in two colors and that's what we used to mark tissue.  Don't know where it came from and don't know where it went!!!
> Happy Friday and Happy Weekend to everyone!!!
> Wanda
>
> WANDA G. SMITH, HTL(ASCP)HT
> Pathology Supervisor
> TRIDENT MEDICAL CENTER
> 9330 Medical Plaza Drive
> Charleston, SC  29406
> 843-847-4586
> 843-847-4296 fax
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] specimen marking ink
>
> Hi Histo World, as I was cutting to day I was thinking why don't we see if we could get specimen marking ink directly from a tattoo vendor? When I first started in histo I was told the ink we use was actually tattoo ink. As we know as soon as somebody labels something as a "medical supply" the price is increased. Just a cost saving thought, I mentioned it to my immediate supervisor but she think it would be a liability issue. I thought we could "test/validate it on skin tissue left over from a mastectomy or extremity. Any thoughts?
>
> Cassandra Davis
> CDavis <@t> che-east.org
> 302-575-8095
>
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 23:44:20 -0300
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC on paraffin embedded skin tissue!
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 Jennifer be sure to add three or four drops of H2O2 to the solution. Maybe the lack
 of oxidation of the chromogen is the cause of no color development.
 Best luck,
 Carlos.-

>       Histonetters-

           I have a question about mouse skin
>samples----an IHC experiment has gone wrong and I am not sure why. I have
>a set of paraffin embedded mouse skin samples from an inflammatory model
>that were stained for F4/80. The end result is no color development after
>the addition of DAB. I use the DAB tablets from Sigma using the TBS buffer
>to dissolve the tablet. There is no color development, not even
>non-specific staining. Any ideas what the problem might be?????  I also
>performed a Proteinase K antigen retrevial step (using the ready made
>solution from Dako) for 15 minutest at 37 C as I was instructed to do.
>Thank you in advance for any insight!

Jennifer Oskins

Jennifer L.
>Oskins
"Until one has loved an animal, part of their soul remains
>unawakened....."

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