[Histonet] Re: Lens vs sponges
Sanjeet Dhirubhai
asanjeet <@t> yahoo.com
Tue Feb 18 14:48:10 CST 2014
Hi Histo Folks,
We are debating on what we should use during grossing either lens papers or sponges.
We are currently using sponges. And in the near future we will be moving to another Lab, basically a merger of 2 Histo depts. The other Lab uses lens papers. I need to know the pros and cons of Sponges verses lens paper.
with sponges there is carrier over of reagents. Is there any other or any major disadvantages of using sponges. Our reagent maintenance is done everyday and is standard. We do not go by the reagent management alerts from the Tissue Processor.
Help
Regards,
Sanjeet Dhirubhai
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6. Re: Turn Around Time (Rene J Buesa)
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9. RE: Turn Around Time (Martha
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10. Re: Turn Around Time (Bob Richmond)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:03:28 -0500 (EST)
From: Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
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Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an IHC
slide?
thanks, Ann
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:08:28 -0500
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A lab I used in Southern California charged $35 per
stain for most antibodies.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
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> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:29:18 +0000
From: Victoria Rimkunas <VRimkunas <@t> merrimackpharma.com>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC cartilage
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Does anyone have experience or a protocol for IHC staining
on cartilage?
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:31:44 -0600
From: Jay Lundgren <jaylundgren <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
To: joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
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Yesterday.
Sincerely?
Jay A. Lundgren, M.S.,
HTL (ASCP)
On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:56 AM, joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>wrote:
> ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer
>
>
>
>
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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> > Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> > CC:
> >
> > Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of
cases. We provide same-day
> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
> >
> > Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
> > Histology Supervisor
> > Licking Memorial Health Systems
> > (740) 348-4163
> > (740) 348-4166
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> >
> > Hello Histonet
> >
> > I am just curious what the standard for Turn
Around Time is for most
> labs.
> > I think a two day turn around time from the time
the biopsy gets to the
> lab
> > to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
pretty fast.
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:35:22 -0500
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Subject: [Histonet] dust-free coverslips - do they really
exist?
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What's your favorite? It gets frustrating when I need
to capture low power images and there coverslips are dirty
right out of the box.
Fisherfinest Premium isn't bad, but I am wondering if there
is something better???
Brett
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 10:38:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
To: Tom McNemar <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>,
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In the US the "standard" (or most frequent) TAT is 24 hours.
In other countries the TAT varies greatly, in extreme cases
up to 1 week for surgicals!
René J.
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Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases. We provide
same-day service for recuts and most in-house special
stains.
Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Licking Memorial Health Systems
(740) 348-4163
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Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
Hello Histonet
I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
gets to the lab
to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
fast.
Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 18:43:49 +0000
From: "Joe W. Walker, Jr." <joewalker <@t> rrmc.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
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I believe that this would be highly dependent on the
antibodies used, how often the antibodies are used, slide
costs, tech costs, overhead, etc. What would be
average for 1 institution might be above or below average
for another.
What are you trying to determine, Ann?
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Subject: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an IHC
slide?
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:32 -0500
From: Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
To: Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
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This is a fascinating question, Ann -
I've been studying this topic for the last couple of years
in five countries. While I do not yet understand this
complex phenomenon as well as I would wish to, these are my
impressions about life here in the US. It is a ridiculous
tale, but I will tell it to you...
The smartest shoppers who have the biggest contracts (you
can guess who those might be) are paying $5-10 for their
highest-volume slides - ER, PR, HER-2 and a few others
- but more like $10-15 for most of their menus. The
smallest IHC customers think they are paying 20-something
per slide, but they are actually paying $30-$40 per slide -
and more in many cases.
How this discrepancy? Two reasons: first, because the
suppliers (I can't quite remember their names right now,
please pardon my senior moment) are highly-skilled at making
their price lists and service contracts as eye-glazingly
complicated as possible. And second, because immutable human
nature compels many mere mortals to underestimate their
costs, particularly while they are still trying to
rationalize a bad investment they made some time ago
I'm pretty sure that American labs (excluding Canada, mind
you) spent $700-750m with the IHC companies in 2013. I
think that between 28m and 32 million IHC slides were run
last year in the US. If you want to slice those estimates
down the middle you'll come up with maybe $24/slide, once
every penny of waste, service, and sub-optimal operating
procedures are truly accounted for.
There you have one of the most useless averages you'll ever
hear. There are plenty of contracts out there in vast middle
America at every price point between $7 and $30 per slide.
You pay what your volume earns you, unless of course you
happen to be in the market for a tissue processor or primary
stainer at the time you're haggling with the IHC companies.
I'll remember their names if you give me another a minute.
That's the way it was last year. WIth these new codes, lots
of small labs will be priced out of the IHC business by
summertime, and the big labs that remain will have
negotiated prices within a narrower range. That'll be a
fast-moving target. Since I didn't see you in the crowd at
the funeral of 88342 last month, I am attaching below our
chronicle of the event.
I'm always happy to banter about this with anyone who thinks
the topic is interesting.
Sincerely,
Michael Farmer
McEvoy & Farmer Pathology
www.mcevoyandfarmer-pathology.com
415-994-8852
"Those who seek the truth doubt those who find it"
- André Gide
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> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing an
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> thanks, Ann
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:05:47 +0000
From: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
To: Dawn Bugge <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
"histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
I also subscribe to the theory that "speed
kills". I'm not sure that these quick TATs
are always medically necessary, but rather more of a
convenience. However that is another discussion
altogether. That said, our institution shoots for the
80% in 24 hours as well.
Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager
Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157
p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890
mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
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On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
Hello Histonet
I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
is pretty fast.
Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:50:45 -0500
From: Bob Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Turn Around Time
To: "Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Dawn R. Bugge at Seattle WA Histology asks:
>>I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
Time is for most
labs. I think a two day turn around time from the time the
biopsy gets to
the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
pretty fast.<<
Normally I'd receive the specimen on Monday and gross it,
have it processed
overnight, get the slides some time Tuesday morning, and
sign the case out
well before close of business on Tuesday.
Exceptions are when the specimen needs to fix overnight
before I gross it
(bowel resection) or after I gross it (fatty breast tissue,
amputation
specimens, autopsies), or when a specimen of more than
minimal size (or
received after 1400) requires decalcification. What I say
goes.
Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Maryville TN
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 19:54:21 +0000
From: "Joe W. Walker, Jr." <joewalker <@t> rrmc.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
To: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>,
Dawn Bugge
<drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
"histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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I agree with you, Martha. That is why we look at it
from an average of all cases for the month. We
definitely encounter cases that are difficult and require
more time with our pathologists. We track the TAT for
statistical purposes only. The CAP (for those who are
CAP accredited) has dropped this from their checklist for
surgical cases. It seems to only really apply to
autopsy cases now but these has a much different TAT
target.
Joe W. Walker, Jr. MS, SCT(ASCP)CM
Manager of Anatomical Pathology, Microbiology and Reference
Rutland Regional Medical Center
160 Allen Street, Rutland, VT 05701
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On Behalf Of Martha Ward-Pathology
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 2:06 PM
To: Dawn Bugge; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
I also subscribe to the theory that "speed
kills". I'm not sure that these quick TATs
are always medically necessary, but rather more of a
convenience. However that is another discussion
altogether. That said, our institution shoots for the
80% in 24 hours as well.
Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager
Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC
27157 p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890 mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
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On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
Hello Histonet
I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
is pretty fast.
Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:37:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
To: Martha Ward-Pathology <mward <@t> wakehealth.edu>,
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Martha:
So, do you mean that you are not satisfied with the quality
of your slides?
If you are, I just do not understand your concerns about a
24 h TAT!
The fundamental issue is to develop adequate protocols
assuring quality as well as a convenient (24 h) TAT.
Just my 3 cents (after inflation!)
René J.
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Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
While I recognize the need for a quick result in some cases,
I also subscribe to the theory that "speed kills". I'm not
sure that these quick TATs are always medically necessary,
but rather more of a convenience. However that is
another discussion altogether. That said, our institution
shoots for the 80% in 24 hours as well.
Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
Manager
Molecular Diagnostics Lab
Medical Center Boulevard \ Winston-Salem, NC 27157
p 336.716.2109 \ f 336.716.5890
mward <@t> wakehealth.edu
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On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
Hello Histonet
I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around Time is
for most labs.
I think a two day turn around time from the time the biopsy
gets to the lab to the time the pathologist signs out a case
is pretty fast.
Thanks for your input.
--
Dawn R Bugge
Seattle Histology
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 21:58:51 +0000
From: "Tony Henwood (SCHN)" <tony.henwood <@t> health.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
To: "'Hans B Snyder'" <hans <@t> histologistics.com>,
"histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Hi Hans,
It is possible, though it will depend on what you want to do
to the slides afterword.
The problem arises from the use of phosphotungstic or
phosphmolybdic acid which is used for differentiation and
mordanting in the trichrome stains like Masson's.
These are very difficult to reverse (anyone trying to
restain PAP smears might know the problem). This may cause
problems.
Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC),
FFSc(RCPA)
Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist, the Children's
Hospital at Westmead
Adjunct Fellow, School of Medicine, University of Western
Sydney
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
Pathology Department
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA
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To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
Does anyone know how to destain Massons trichrome? Is it
possible?
Thank you
Histologistics
Hans B Snyder
508.308.7800
Hans <@t> histologistics.com
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:26:00 -0800
From: Madeleine Huey <madeleinehuey <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 123, Issue 3
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Dawn,
Our TAT is 94% with 24 hours & 98% within 48 hours (~ 6%
complicated cases
need more IPOX/Molecular Study/FACS & etc.).
Madeleine
Superviser - Pathology (IPOX & Histology)
madeleine_h <@t> elcaminohospital.org
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On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
Time is for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
biopsy gets to the
lab
> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> 3. RE: Ventana LEAN (Tim Higgins)
> 4. RE: RE: Ventana LEAN (Rathborne, Toni)
> 5. How to De-stain trichrome (Hans B
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> 6. Histotech position FT West Palm Beach
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> 7. anyone need a glass cover slipper
(Curt)
> 8. On-call position for Histology
Assistant in Phoenix AZ (Jill Cox)
> 9. RE: RE: Ventana LEAN (Eytalis, Robert
A)
> 10. Turn Around Time (Dawn Bugge)
> 11. RE: Turn Around Time (Tom
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> 12. RE: Turn Around Time (joelle
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2014 18:34:15 +0000
> From: WILLIAM DESALVO <wdesalvo.cac <@t> outlook.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Gross lab seniors
> To: E. Wayne Johnson ??? <ewj <@t> pigsqq.org>
> Cc: histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,
" Vickroy, Jim "
> <vickroy.jim <@t> mhsil.com>
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> Absolutely the Face velocity changes with the work area
set-up. This is
> why I like to make sure the air flow away is
maintained at a minimum. Most
> grossing stations have large working area and often the
flow away from the
> grosser is not checked, just the vent opening draw.
Most important is to
> set up a process and then regularly check.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
>
>
>
>
> From: E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森
> Sent: ‎Saturday‎, ‎February‎
‎1‎, ‎2014
‎3‎:‎12‎ ‎PM
> To: WILLIAM DESALVO
> Cc: Vickroy, Jim, histonet
>
>
>
>
>
> Face velocity is simply the airflow rate in CFM divided
by the area of
> the hood opening in square feet.
>
> A smaller opening at the same flow rate gives a higher
face velocity.
>
> Titanium tetrachloride in a small plastic squeeze
bottle can be used to
> generate "smoke".
>
>
> On 3:59 AM, WILLIAM DESALVO wrote:
> > We use a company called C-Scan Technologies,
Phoenix, AZ. The way they
> test all our gross dissection stations is by testing
for directional or
> smoke containment and face velocity. We also check th
they external pathway
> is clear and if the unit has a filtering system, the
filters are changed
> regularly. The air flow measurement is Feet per minute
(FPM) for face
> velocity and includes width, height, depth and total
square ft for the
> working area. They exhaust flow in CFM. Face velocity
minimum requirement
> is 100 fpm, exhaust flow requirement is>500 cfm.
Face velocity fluctuates
> depending on the room and the air exchange rate for the
area. I have always
> felt the face velocity is most important to gross
dissection personnel.
> There needs to be adequate draw away from the employee,
no matter the
> physical conditions of the room.
> >
> > William DeSalvo, BS HTL(ASCP)
> > Production Manager-Anatomic Pathology
> > Chair, NSH Quality Management Committee
> > Owner/Consultant, Collaborative Advantage
Consulting
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Vickroy.Jim <@t> mhsil.com
> >> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> >> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:46:08 -0600
> >> Subject: [Histonet] Gross lab seniors
> >>
> >>
> >> We have several gross lab senior grossing
stations that are vented
> outside. Our engineering asked today whether the
airflow should be checked
> yearly like other exhaust
hoods. Problem is there is not a door like
> other hoods of course and how would you measure the
airflow? Recommended
> airflow is 500cfm however clearly the airflow at the
working surface is not
> anything close to that. I wondered how
anybody else monitors the gross
> lab seniors or do they at all. CAP
used to ask about documentation for
> checking hoods however I can't recall them ever
checking on grossing
> stations. We change filters annually only
since they are vented outside.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> James Vickroy BS, HT(ASCP)
> >>
> >> Surgical and Autopsy Pathology Technical
Supervisor
> >> Memorial Medical Center
> >> 217-788-4046
> >>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 05:40:33 -0500
> From: Damien <dmlaud <@t> laudierhistology.com>
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] protocols to fix insect wings
that are quite
> hirsute
> To: Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com>
> Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> Hi Jorge,
>
> I'd be happy to help you if I can. Please feel free to
message me.
>
> Best,
> Damien L
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > This sounds like a question for the insect
histology expert, Damien
> > Laudier! He monitors this site so I am sure he
will respond to you
> > privately. :)
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:00 PM, "Jorge A.
Santiago-Blay" <
> > blayjorge <@t> gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > Can someone point me on the direction of
protocols to fix insect wings
> > that
> > > are quite hirsute. I would like to increase
the likelihood of the
> > > preservative actually going through the
carpet of setae to actually fix
> > the
> > > interior of the wing. Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Jorge
> > >
> > > Jorge A. Santiago-Blay, PhD
> > > blaypublishers.com
> > > http://blayjorge.wordpress.com/
> > > http://paleobiology.si.edu/staff/individuals/santiagoblay.html
> > >
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>
> --
> Damien Laudier
> Laudier Histology
> www.LaudierHistology.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 07:58:51 -0600
> From: Tim Higgins <thigginsht <@t> msn.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
workflow better. I
> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
more of a selling tool
> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
terrible, they might be able to
> offer good advice.
>
> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>
> Thank,
> Tim H.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:32:59 +0000
> From: "Rathborne, Toni" <trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
> To: "'Tim Higgins'" <thigginsht <@t> msn.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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>
> Another benefit of someone coming in from the outside
(Leica did the same
> for us), is that since this is what these people do
every day, management
> is more likely to listen to their suggestions. If it's
the same as yours
> then that would reinforce your current plans. If it's
different than what
> you had in mind, they will generally try to help with
what you want to do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
On Behalf Of Tim Higgins
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:59 AM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>
> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
workflow better. I
> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
more of a selling tool
> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
terrible, they might be able to
> offer good advice.
>
> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>
> Thank,
> Tim H.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:53:45 -0500
> From: Hans B Snyder <hans <@t> histologistics.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] How to De-stain trichrome
> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Message-ID: <ED90154D-C730-42DB-8779-F628427C0F40 <@t> histologistics.com>
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> Does anyone know how to destain Massons trichrome? Is
it possible?
>
> Thank you
>
> Histologistics
> Hans B Snyder
> 508.308.7800
> Hans <@t> histologistics.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 15:19:07 +0000 (UTC)
> From: nicole <@t> dlcjax.com
> Subject: [Histonet] Histotech position FT West Palm
Beach
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Message-ID:
<1940731504.67335.1391440747343.JavaMail.mail <@t> webmail17>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>
> Posting
for I/MD Path labs West Palm
Beach, Florida Looking for
> full time Histotech.
Dermpath lab. Please contact
Dr. Morales.
> 1(561)653-8005
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:06:56 +0000
> From: Curt <c.tague <@t> Pathologyarts.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] anyone need a glass cover slipper
> To: "Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Message-ID:
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> We have on old Hacker glass cover slipper, I think
it's a Hacker.... The
> name plate on the front says Meisei but I'm told it's a
Hacker. Anyway, the
> model number: RCM-3660 if that's helpful.
>
> I'm not looking to make a bunch of money, so many
people here have been
> helpful over the years from knowledge and advice to
helping me out with
> control tissue.
>
> If someone needs one, I'd be willing to help out a bit,
just need to cover
> the expense of shipping and packing.
>
> Let me know, I can snap a picture if desired. We
recently had is serviced
> and it's said to be working fine by the technician.
>
>
> Curt
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 08:58:56 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jill Cox <jcox90 <@t> yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] On-call position for Histology
Assistant in
> Phoenix AZ
> To: "Histonet <@t> Lists. Edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Netters,
> We are looking for an on-call histology assistant to
cover for vacations
> and sick leave, already have a few days in March/April.
We are a small
> Dermatology lab in NW Peoria AZ, great working
conditions and people. Very
> nice place to work. Hours are from 7:30-4:00PM when
needed. Email me for
> more details.
> Thank you, Jill
>
> Arrowhead Dermatology
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:00:28 +0000
> From: "Eytalis, Robert A" <Robert-Eytalis <@t> RiversideHealthCare.net>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
> To: "Rathborne, Toni" <trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com>,
"'Tim
> Higgins'"
<thigginsht <@t> msn.com>,
"
> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Depends on if your management is skeptical of vendors.
Mine automatically
> assume that they are marketing to us.
>
> Robert A. Eytalis
> Laboratory Manager
> robert-eytalis <@t> riversidehealthcare.net
> Phone: (815) 935-7256 ext. 5186
>
(815) 935-7535
> Fax (815)
935-7068
>
> Riverside Medical Center
> 350 N. Wall Street - Kankakee, IL 60901
>
>
>
> http://mail.riversidehealthcare.net/owa/redir.aspx?C=qIzWpCGMNkq2SuiIt1v_2X7GmC1aOtAI7VlOiEQ974hhCQzwyDH6yJklmjoBIK92OWDFwivhIZs.&URL=http%3a%2f%2fwww.riversidemc.net%2f
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>
> ________________________________________
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
on behalf of Rathborne, Toni [
> trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:32 AM
> To: 'Tim Higgins'; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>
> Another benefit of someone coming in from the outside
(Leica did the same
> for us), is that since this is what these people do
every day, management
> is more likely to listen to their suggestions. If it's
the same as yours
> then that would reinforce your current plans. If it's
different than what
> you had in mind, they will generally try to help with
what you want to do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
On Behalf Of Tim Higgins
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 8:59 AM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: Ventana LEAN
>
> They come in, give their opinions on how to make your
workflow better. I
> didn't get much from it, we didn't make any changes,
more of a selling tool
> in my opion. I guess if your workflow was
terrible, they might be able to
> offer good advice.
>
> On a positive, they were all very nice.
>
> Thank,
> Tim H.
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 09:43:06 -0800
> From: Dawn Bugge <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>
> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
Time is for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
biopsy gets to the lab
> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
> From: Tom McNemar <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: 'Dawn Bugge' <drbugge <@t> gmail.com>,
> "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
> <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Message-ID:
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> Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of cases. We
provide same-day
> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
>
> Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
> Histology Supervisor
> Licking Memorial Health Systems
> (740) 348-4163
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
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> Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
>
> Hello Histonet
>
> I am just curious what the standard for Turn Around
Time is for most labs.
> I think a two day turn around time from the time the
biopsy gets to the lab
> to the time the pathologist signs out a case is pretty
fast.
>
> Thanks for your input.
> --
> Dawn R Bugge
> Seattle Histology
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> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 17:56:47 +0000
> From: joelle weaver <joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> To: Tom McNemar <tmcnemar <@t> lmhealth.org>,
'Dawn Bugge'
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> ditto. Only FISH is allowed to take longer
>
>
>
>
> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
>
> > From: TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org
> > To: drbugge <@t> gmail.com;
histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 12:49:14 -0500
> > Subject: RE: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> > CC:
> >
> > Our benchmark is 24 hour TAT for 80% of
cases. We provide same-day
> service for recuts and most in-house special stains.
> >
> > Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
> > Histology Supervisor
> > Licking Memorial Health Systems
> > (740) 348-4163
> > (740) 348-4166
> > tmcnemar <@t> lmhealth.org
> > www.LMHealth.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:
> histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu]
On Behalf Of Dawn Bugge
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 12:43 PM
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Subject: [Histonet] Turn Around Time
> >
> > Hello Histonet
> >
> > I am just curious what the standard for Turn
Around Time is for most
> labs.
> > I think a two day turn around time from the time
the biopsy gets to the
> lab
> > to the time the pathologist signs out a case is
pretty fast.
> >
> > Thanks for your input.
> > --
> > Dawn R Bugge
> > Seattle Histology
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 17:27:38 -0500
From: Mike Thompson <mike <@t> dbiosys.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Price for preparing IHC slides
To: Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu,
Ann Specian <thisisann <@t> aol.com>
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Read our motto below. I've worked for the big IHC
companies. Now we will place everything at $10/slide w
antibody. Instrument included.
Michael O. Thompson
Director of Sales
Diagnostic BioSystems
Phone: 1-888-896-3350
Mobile: 412-860-1288
Office Fax: 412-727-6080
"IHC Made Affordable"
www.dbiosys.com
Michael Farmer <michael <@t> mcevoyandfarmer.com>
wrote:
>This is a fascinating question, Ann -
>
>I've been studying this topic for the last couple of
years in five countries. While I do not yet understand this
complex phenomenon as well as I would wish to, these are my
impressions about life here in the US. It is a ridiculous
tale, but I will tell it to you...
>
>The smartest shoppers who have the biggest contracts
(you can guess who those might be) are paying $5-10 for
their highest-volume slides - ER, PR, HER-2 and a few
others - but more like $10-15 for most of their menus.
The smallest IHC customers think they are paying
20-something per slide, but they are actually paying $30-$40
per slide - and more in many cases.
>
>How this discrepancy? Two reasons: first, because the
suppliers (I can't quite remember their names right now,
please pardon my senior moment) are highly-skilled at making
their price lists and service contracts as eye-glazingly
complicated as possible. And second, because immutable human
nature compels many mere mortals to underestimate their
costs, particularly while they are still trying to
rationalize a bad investment they made some time ago
>
>I'm pretty sure that American labs (excluding Canada,
mind you) spent $700-750m with the IHC companies in
2013. I think that between 28m and 32 million IHC slides
were run last year in the US. If you want to slice those
estimates down the middle you'll come up with maybe
$24/slide, once every penny of waste, service, and
sub-optimal operating procedures are truly accounted for.
>
>There you have one of the most useless averages you'll
ever hear. There are plenty of contracts out there in vast
middle America at every price point between $7 and $30 per
slide. You pay what your volume earns you, unless of course
you happen to be in the market for a tissue processor or
primary stainer at the time you're haggling with the IHC
companies. I'll remember their names if you give me another
a minute.
>
>That's the way it was last year. WIth these new codes,
lots of small labs will be priced out of the IHC business by
summertime, and the big labs that remain will have
negotiated prices within a narrower range. That'll be a
fast-moving target. Since I didn't see you in the crowd at
the funeral of 88342 last month, I am attaching below our
chronicle of the event.
>
>I'm always happy to banter about this with anyone who
thinks the topic is interesting.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Michael Farmer
>McEvoy & Farmer Pathology
>www.mcevoyandfarmer-pathology.com
>415-994-8852
>
>"Those who seek the truth doubt those who find it"
> - André Gide
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Feb 3, 2014, at 1:03 PM, Ann Specian wrote:
>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me the average cost for preparing
an IHC slide?
>> thanks, Ann
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