[Histonet] Re: Unregistered HT
joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com
Thu Sep 12 08:58:15 CDT 2013
This is one of the best posts I have read on this subject, along with Tim Morken's positive one from yesterday. Feedback ! Collaboration ! Learning! That is what we need to bring all us up. It comes down to you and what you want to get out of it, but glad to hear the Pathologists view. Managers have to be on board too. It takes everyone to generate change.
And maybe people didn't understand Deming at the time, but they had definitely come to appreciate Deming by the time I studied business, and my business professors were not laughing at his ideas. Food for thought.
Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 09:22:06 -0400
> From: rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: Unregistered HT
> Since somebody mentioned the Samurai Pathologist (who is now 74 years old
> and in his 50th year in pathology) -
> I agree with most of what's been said here and I won't repeat it.
> >From the pathologist's viewpoint - remember that most pathologists are now
> on salary (or soon will be) and don't have a dog in the fight about doing
> the job as cheaply as possible.
> I think that a very large part of the problem is that most pathologists
> haven't a clue as to what goes on in the histology lab (that's why we cram
> cassettes full of fatty breast tissue), and that pathologists need to
> acquire this knowledge in residency, to the degree that they can teach and
> trouble-shoot or work with senior technologists who can. It's particularly
> important that pathologists learn to embed.
> Edwards Deming was an economist who grew up in "operations research" during
> World War 2. After the War he tried to get the automotive industry to adopt
> his methods. The executives laughed at him (and still do in the business
> schools, I think), so he took his ideas to Japan, where they built the
> Japanese automative industry. Deming's major idea (if I understand him
> correctly) was that workers need constant specific feedback about what
> they're doing.
> I think that the establishment of effective feedback from pathologist to
> histotechnologist is the first step in solving the problem we've been
> talking about. And I think that means a pathologist sitting down with a
> histotechnologist and reviewing some of the day's slides every blessed day.
> Bob Richmond
> Samurai Pathologist
> Maryville TN
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