[Histonet] Clia grossing regulations

joelle weaver joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com
Fri Nov 22 12:47:56 CST 2013 

There are those who can perform under the grandfather clauses in CLIA still working. 
What I put up earlier was straight from the CAP AP checklist for grossing for non-pathologist; 
 
I interpret the CLIA statement to mean at least an associates or what they say is equivalent in college credits, plus the training-either as a completion of a formal program OR the 3 months documented laboratory training in each specialty in which the individual performs high complexity testing. Not the college credits as the "OR" but the formal program versus the  OJT documented training in the high complexity test method. This is my interpretation and how it has been applied to me at various employers anyhow. 
 
AS Degree or equivalent- must have unless grandfathered
Training-formal or OJT documented OR 3 months in high complexity




Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
 
> From: vrivera <@t> westderm.com
> To: joelleweaver <@t> hotmail.com
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Clia grossing regulations
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:23:33 +0000
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> Hi Joelle,
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> I hope you're having a great Friday so far. I'm hoping you can help shed some light on the "OR'' part at the end of #2. At the end of part 2 it states " OR at least 3 months documented laboratory training in each specialty in which the individual performs high complexity testing." Does this mean that an individual without an associate's degree or 60 semester hours can participate in grossing, as long as they have 3 months of documented lab training? 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent Rivera, HT (ASCP), QIHC, QLS
> Histopathology Supervisor
> West Dermatology Pathology Laboratory
> vrivera <@t> westderm.com
> 714-924-7240 (Lab)
> 714-390-0906 (Cell)
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> To: Joanne Clark; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] Clia grossing regulations
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> The
> minimum training/experience required of such personnel is:
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> An earned associate degree in a laboratory science or medical laboratory technology, obtained from an accredited institution, OR
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> Education/training equivalent to the above that includes at least 60 semester hours or equivalent from an accredited institution.  This education must include
> 24 semester hours of medical laboratory technology courses, OR 24 semester hours of science courses that includes 6 semester hours of chemistry, 6 semester hours of biology, and 12 semester hours of chemistry, biology or medical laboratory technology in any combination. In addition, the individual must have laboratory training including either completion of a clinical laboratory training program approved or accredited by the ABHES, the CAHEA, or other organization approved by HHS (note that this training may be included in the
> 60 semester hours listed above), OR at least 3 months documented laboratory training in each specialty in which the individual performs high complexity testing.
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> In addition, the
> CLIA-88 regulations include exceptions for grandfathered individuals; these regulations (42CFR493.1489 and 1491) may be found at http://www.phppo.cdc.gov/clia/regs/subpart_m.aspx#493.1487
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> Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
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> > From: jclark <@t> pcnm.com
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:09:34 +0000
> > Subject: [Histonet] Clia grossing regulations
> > 
> > Carol, here they are:
> > 
> > **REVISED** 07/11/2011
> > ANP.11610 Gross Examination Qualifications Phase II If individuals 
> > other than a pathologist or pathology resident assist in gross 
> > examinations, such individuals qualify as high complexity testing personnel under CLIA regulations.
> > NOTE: The laboratory director may delegate the dissection of specimens 
> > to non-pathologist individuals; these individuals must be qualified as 
> > high complexity testing personnel under CLIA regulations. The minimum training/experience required of such personnel is:
> > 1. An earned associate degree in a laboratory science or medical 
> > laboratory technology, obtained from an accredited institution, OR 2. 
> > Education/training equivalent to the above that includes at least 60 
> > semester hours or equivalent from an accredited institution. This 
> > education must include 24 semester hours of medical laboratory 
> > technology courses, OR 24 semester hours of science courses that 
> > includes 6 semester hours of chemistry, 6 semester hours of biology, 
> > and
> > 12 semester hours of chemistry, biology or medical laboratory 
> > technology in any combination. In addition, the individual must have 
> > laboratory training including either completion of a clinical 
> > laboratory training program approved or accredited by the ABHES, 
> > NAACLA, or other organization approved by HHS (note that this training 
> > may be included in the 60 semester hours listed above), OR at least 3 
> > months documented laboratory training in each specialty in which the individual performs high complexity testing.
> > It is the responsibility of the laboratory director to determine 
> > whether an individual's education, training and experience satisfies the requirements of this checklist requirement.
> > This checklist requirement applies only to laboratories subject to US regulations.
> > 
> > Joanne Clark, HT
> > Director of Histology
> > Pathology Consultants of New Mexico
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:22:47 -0500
> > From: Carol Kowalcyk <ckowalcyk <@t> gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Histonet] what are the Clia regulations for an Ht to
> > 	gross??? 
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