[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 121, Issue 21

Scott A. Ely sae2001 <@t> med.cornell.edu
Mon Dec 16 15:13:46 CST 2013


re:  per slide cost for IHC

I realize there are differences in reagents, including antibody prices.  Still, I sometimes am asked to provide the average cost to produce a single IHC slide.

If anyone has an available estimate, especially broken down (glass cost, antibody cost, labor cost...), I would greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.
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Today's Topics:

   1. rabbit cea antibody for mouse (Mehmet Fatih BOZKURT)
   2. IHC Lead Tech Position - Dallas (Pat Patterson)
   3. Freezer for tissue storage (Wester, Martha)
   4. RE: Re: Staining on Alcohol Fixed Smears (Tom McNemar)
   5. Charges for recuts on legal cases (Vickroy, Jim)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:02:54 +0200
From: Mehmet Fatih BOZKURT <fbozkurt <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] rabbit cea antibody for mouse
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Hello,

I'm looking for rabbit CEA antibody for using on mouse tissue. Anyone can
help me?
Thanks.

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Mehmet Fatih BOZKURT, DVM, PhD
Afyon Kocatepe University
Faculty of Veterinary Medicine
Department of Pathology
03030, ANS Campus
Afyonkarahisar-TURKEY
Tel: +902722281312-16173/16237


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:41:51 +0000
From: Pat Patterson <Pat.Patterson <@t> propath.com>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC Lead Tech Position - Dallas
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LEAD IMMUNOHISTOCHEMISTRY TECHNICIAN

ProPath, a progressive, CAP accredited, high-volume pathology practice in Dallas, Texas is seeking an Lead Immunohistochemistry Technician for its' Immunohistochemistry Lab.  Responsibilities include slide preparation (paraffin and frozen sections), IHC staining using our unique manual system, antibody titer preparation, equipment maintenance, supply/reagent inventory maintenance, and QC/QA recording.

The ideal candidate will have a minimum of 5 years Histology experience with paraffin microtomy with a variety of different tissue types, prefer at least 3 years immunohistochemistry, immunofluorescence or in situ hybridization and frozen section experience.  Technical Lead/Coordinator experience is required.  Working knowledge of IHC theory required, hands on IHC performance desired.  If using an automated system we'll easily train you on our manual system.  HT (ASCP) or QIHC desired.

The hours for the position are 7:00 p.m. to 3:30 a.m. Monday through Friday.

ProPath utilizes leading technology and is a quality oriented pathology laboratory.  Benefits include medical, dental, Short and Long Term Disability insurance, a matched 401K plan and more!

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:56:10 +0000
From: "Wester, Martha" <WesterM <@t> MedImmune.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Freezer for tissue storage
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Dr Cartun-
We've had similar experiences to Hugh's. In the histo group we maybe only have 15 validated freezers (all Revco's), but throughout our company we have hundreds.  Over the past few years our Research Operations has moved to purchasing Sanyos because of the turnover rates of the new ultra low Revco's.  We have no Sanyo's in our group yet, so I do not have any feedback on their performance. (I've always used uprights, so I'm not much use there either.)
Best of luck!

Martha
Lab Manager
Gaithersburg, MD
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:41:15 -1000
From: Hugh Luk <hlukey <@t> msn.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Freezer for tissue storage
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Dr. Cartun,

Agreed, chest freezers have less frost/door problems/sealing issues and seem to live longer. Stand-ups maximize footprint/space efficiency and allow for easier, horizontal-rack pulling for archiving and inventory.  Due to volume and space constraints, the UH cancer center buys stand-ups.  We have over a hundred.

My personal caution is for the newer Thermo-Revco freezers, especially the ultra-low Thermo UXF in mostly 24.1 cu. ft..  Perhaps this is just our bad luck but an abnormal number failed (7/9), and three were within the first year.  The unfortunate units were purchased over the last four years.  Our bio-engineer has asked us to avoid buying Revco (after endorsing Revco/Harris for many years) and buy New Brunswick/Eppendorf or Sanyo ULT freezers, for the immediate future.

We're not endorsing Sanyo or New Brunswick, we're just staying away from a brand that has recently given us trouble.  Hopefully, it is different in your area, as Hawaii has logistical issues that may have exacerbated this issue (maybe it was that looong boat trip)?

Just my $0.02.  (And $0.02 will not buy anything, anymore.)

Hugh
UHCC path shared resource manager
Honolulu, HI



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> I need a recommendation for a -80 degree C. freezer for storing tissue specimens.  Do you prefer upright vs. chest?  Thanks.
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> Richard
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:57:20 +0000
From: "Truscott, Tom" <ttruscot <@t> vetmed.wsu.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Freezer for tissue storage
To: Hugh Luk <hlukey <@t> msn.com>, "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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We have both upright and chest and both have their pros and cons. We have had trouble with electrical circuits which aren't matched to the load that these freezers can put on them. An electrician told us that it can put an tremendous strain on the freezer motor if the circuit isn't right and two or three freezers start up at the same time- leading to shortened life of the freezer. So- make sure a good electrician is involved in your freezer set-up. Tom T

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Dr. Cartun,

Agreed, chest freezers have less frost/door problems/sealing issues and seem to live longer. Stand-ups maximize footprint/space efficiency and allow for easier, horizontal-rack pulling for archiving and inventory.  Due to volume and space constraints, the UH cancer center buys stand-ups.  We have over a hundred.

My personal caution is for the newer Thermo-Revco freezers, especially the ultra-low Thermo UXF in mostly 24.1 cu. ft..  Perhaps this is just our bad luck but an abnormal number failed (7/9), and three were within the first year.  The unfortunate units were purchased over the last four years.  Our bio-engineer has asked us to avoid buying Revco (after endorsing Revco/Harris for many years) and buy New Brunswick/Eppendorf or Sanyo ULT freezers, for the immediate future.

We're not endorsing Sanyo or New Brunswick, we're just staying away from a brand that has recently given us trouble.  Hopefully, it is different in your area, as Hawaii has logistical issues that may have exacerbated this issue (maybe it was that looong boat trip)?

Just my $0.02.  (And $0.02 will not buy anything, anymore.)

Hugh
UHCC path shared resource manager
Honolulu, HI



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> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 18:51:57 +0000
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> I need a recommendation for a -80 degree C. freezer for storing tissue specimens.  Do you prefer upright vs. chest?  Thanks.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
> Richard W. Cartun, MS, PhD
>
> Director, Histology & Immunopathology
>
> Director, Biospecimen Collection Programs
>
> Assistant Director, Anatomic Pathology
>
> Hartford Hospital
>
> 80 Seymour Street
>
> Hartford, CT  06102
>
> (860) 545-1596 Office
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:25:08 +0200
From: Levi Fried <levi.fried <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Staining on Alcohol Fixed Smears.
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Hi Everyone.

I am looking to stain alcohol fixed smears with a group of antibodies.

The antibodies of particular interest are p63, p53 and ki67.
Along with these antibodies I am looking for positive nuclear and cytoplastic staining antibodies.

If anyone has any experience in staining alcohol fixed slides your information is very appreciated.

All the best.

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- Levi Fried


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 11:13:59 -0500
From: Tom McNemar <TMcNemar <@t> lmhealth.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Staining on Alcohol Fixed Smears
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Since there is no exposure to formalin, we do not do antigen retrieval on alcohol fixed specimens.  We use the Ventana Benchmark XT and copy the protocol to a new number and use the "Wet" option rather than paraffin.  No retrieval needed.

Tom McNemar, HT(ASCP)
Histology Co-ordinator
Licking Memorial Health Systems
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Subject: [Histonet] Re: Staining on Alcohol Fixed Smears

Levi,

I've worked up most of the more common antibodies on alcohol fixed
smears.  There are two things to remember here:  1) your specimens are
alcohol fixed, meaning antigen retrieval needs are different, and 2)
they are smears, meaning the cells weren't 'cut open' during microtomy,
which impeeds some nuclear staining.  Those are two different issues to
consider.

Some rules of thumb:
1)  most cell membrane antigens will stain nicely with minimal changes
to the protocols you use for FFPE specimens
2)  most cytokeratin antigens stain nicely with little change to your
FFPE protocols (if you need to change, start by cutting your antigen
retrieval time in half)
3)  most nuclear antigens require significant changes from FFPE
protocols, and some are essentially impossible to stain using standard
antibodies.

When I return to work on Monday, I will forward you my protocol
'adjustments' for the antibodies you requested.

Beth Cox, HTL/SCT(ASCP)QIHC
Vagabond Histotech




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> Subject: [Histonet] Staining on Alcohol Fixed Smears.
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> Hi Everyone.
>
> I am looking to stain alcohol fixed smears with a group of antibodies.
>
> The antibodies of particular interest are p63, p53 and ki67.
> Along with these antibodies I am looking for positive nuclear and
> cytoplastic staining antibodies.
>
> If anyone has any experience in staining alcohol fixed slides your
> information is very appreciated.
>
> All the best.
>
> -- Sincerely, - Levi Fried

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 10:16:46 -0600
From: "Vickroy, Jim" <Vickroy.Jim <@t> mhsil.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Charges for recuts on legal cases
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Can anyone share with me what they charge for doing recuts on cases that have been pulled for legal purposes?   I am trying to see what others charge before we assign a charge.
I think most people are probably charging by the slide but please let me know if you charge differently.

Thanks

James Vickroy BS, HT(ASCP)

Surgical  and Autopsy Pathology Technical Supervisor
Memorial Medical Center
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