[Histonet] RE: Color blind chart request

Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/OID/NCEZID) jqb7 <@t> cdc.gov
Tue Mar 13 10:38:40 CDT 2012


You probably have to have someone administer it and verify it to make it acceptable for CAP, though.


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Google "Color blind chart".
Then select "images" from the google menu.
You will get what you want.
Select the image and print on a color printer.
Viola!  Done.

Stephen G. Ruby


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   1. Re:  undecalcified bone IHC (gayle callis)
   2. Re: Re: undecalcified bone IHC (Victoria Baker)
   3. Unsubscribe (Konop, Nicole)
   4. Gram Stain (Giroux, Stacy)
   5. DAKO Autostainer Issues (Friedrich_Hahn <@t> bd.com)
   6. Color Blindness Testing (Laurie <@t> blufrogpath.com)
   7. Re: DAKO Autostainer Issues (Drew Meyer)
   8. IHC for decalcified bone protocol (Jeffery Howery)
   9. Re: IHC for decalcified bone protocol (Mehmet Fatih BOZKURT)
  10. RE: Gram Stain (gayle callis)
  11. IHC Slides (Courtney Pierce)
  12. Re: IHC Slides (Rene J Buesa)
  13. RE: Gram Stain (Tony Henwood (SCHN))
  14. CD34 (Chakib Boussahmain)
  15. (no subject) (enrriq88 <@t> yahoo.com)
  16. Liver Biopsy Processing Schedule (ADESUPO ADESUYI)
  17. CD45.1 & CD45.2 IF on parrafin sections. (Thotakura, Anil Kumar)
  18. IHC Processor Validation & MUM1 (Bliven, Laura)
  19. Ihc validation (Sabrina Townsend)
  20. RE: Re:  undecalcified bone IHC (Jack Ratliff)
  21. Re: CD34 (Rene J Buesa)
  22. Re: IHC Processor Validation & MUM1 (Rene J Buesa)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:04:20 -0600
From: "gayle callis" <gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net>
Subject: [Histonet] Re:  undecalcified bone IHC
To: "'Histonet'" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Jeff,



It is most certainly possible to do IHC on undecalcifed bone sections
embedded in PMMA although not the easiest task.   Sectioning is done on a
microtome that is powerful enough to cut the plastic and using tungsten
carbide knives.   The key is total removal of the plastic from MMA embedded
bone sections to allow antibody/ immunoglobulins to access antigenic sites.
Neil Hand has done IHC successfully on PMMA embedded tissues including undecalcified bone on 2 to 3 ?m thick sections.  I think one could cut thicker sections at 4 to 5 ?m and still be successful.  I do not recall what Troiano et al used.



The following publications will help you and should include protocols, although conventional protocols will work according to Hand.



Blythe D. Hand N et al 1997 J Clin Path 50:45-49.    The use of methyl
methacrylate resin for embedding bone marrow trephine biopsies.

Hand NM et al 1996 Antigen unmasking using microwave heating on formalin fixed tissue embedded in methyl methacrylate J Cellular Path 1:31-37

Jackson P et al.   1996  Amplification of immunocytochemical reactions by
the catalytic deposition of biotin on tissue sections.   J Path
170(suppl):23A.  This was about tyramide amplification when one gets a weak signal from "conventional" methods.

Hand NM, Church RJ 1998 Superheating using pressure cooking: its use and application in unmasking antigens embedded in methyl methacrylate.  J Histotechnology 2`:231-236

Hand NM et al 1989 Immunohistochemistry on resin embedded tissue for light
microscopy: a novel post embedding procedure.  Proceeding Royal Microscopical Society 24(1):A54-55.

Hand NM Plastic Embedding media and techniques, Ch.30, p 663-677.   Theory
and Practice of Histological Technique,  5th edition by Gamble and Bancroft.
The 6th edition is updated under same title.



Use Google Scholar to find Troiano N et al from Yale on doing IHC on PMMA embedded bone sections with publications in J Histotechnology.





Hand mentioned several HIER methods, using citrate buffer.   Optimizing
retrieval will depend on the antigen and you may end up doing this with some form of HIER, including microwave or other heat producing methods and with
different buffers.     Enzyme digestion is also a possibility.



Hand removed MMA with xylene, warm my speed up the removal, also more than
one change for 10 - 20 minutes or longer.   When I talked to him personally,
he said he had used warm xylene although temperature was not mentioned in
his chapter.   After MMA removal, rehydrate section through alcohol gradient
as one does paraffin sections.    He was emphatic about never allowing the
sections dry out.



Hopefully Jack Ratliff and Damien Laudier will provide more insight on this topic.



Good luck



Gayle M. Callis

HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)













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Hi Jeff,



If is it possible a few more specifics of how the tissue has been received,

processed and evaluated would help.  Undecalcified bone sectioning

procedures vary and also what specific markers are you looking to do is

important.



Vikki

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
wrote:



> Undecalcified? How are you going to section it?

> If you can section it, just use any IHC protocol for regular sections.

> Good luck!

> Ren? J.

>

> --- On Mon, 3/12/12, Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com> wrote:

>

>

> From: Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com>

> Subject: [Histonet] Undecalcified bone IHC

> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu

> Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 10:59 AM

>

>

> Does anyone have a protocol for Undecalcified bone for IHC?

>



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:09:39 -0400
From: Victoria Baker <bakevictoria <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Re: undecalcified bone IHC
To: gayle callis <gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net>
Cc: Histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Thank you Gayle.   Vikki
 On Mar 12, 2012 1:04 PM, "gayle callis" <gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
>
>
> It is most certainly possible to do IHC on undecalcifed bone sections
> embedded in PMMA although not the easiest task.   Sectioning is done on a
> microtome that is powerful enough to cut the plastic and using tungsten
> carbide knives.   The key is total removal of the plastic from MMA embedded
> bone sections to allow antibody/ immunoglobulins to access antigenic sites.
> Neil Hand has done IHC successfully on PMMA embedded tissues including 
> undecalcified bone on 2 to 3 ?m thick sections.  I think one could cut 
> thicker sections at 4 to 5 ?m and still be successful.  I do not 
> recall what Troiano et al used.
>
>
>
> The following publications will help you and should include protocols, 
> although conventional protocols will work according to Hand.
>
>
>
> Blythe D. Hand N et al 1997 J Clin Path 50:45-49.    The use of methyl
> methacrylate resin for embedding bone marrow trephine biopsies.
>
> Hand NM et al 1996 Antigen unmasking using microwave heating on 
> formalin fixed tissue embedded in methyl methacrylate J Cellular Path
> 1:31-37
>
> Jackson P et al.   1996  Amplification of immunocytochemical reactions by
> the catalytic deposition of biotin on tissue sections.   J Path
> 170(suppl):23A.  This was about tyramide amplification when one gets a 
> weak signal from "conventional" methods.
>
> Hand NM, Church RJ 1998 Superheating using pressure cooking: its use 
> and application in unmasking antigens embedded in methyl methacrylate.
> J Histotechnology 2`:231-236
>
> Hand NM et al 1989 Immunohistochemistry on resin embedded tissue for 
> light
> microscopy: a novel post embedding procedure.  Proceeding Royal 
> Microscopical Society 24(1):A54-55.
>
> Hand NM Plastic Embedding media and techniques, Ch.30, p 663-677.   Theory
> and Practice of Histological Technique,  5th edition by Gamble and 
> Bancroft.
> The 6th edition is updated under same title.
>
>
>
> Use Google Scholar to find Troiano N et al from Yale on doing IHC on 
> PMMA embedded bone sections with publications in J Histotechnology.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hand mentioned several HIER methods, using citrate buffer.   Optimizing
> retrieval will depend on the antigen and you may end up doing this 
> with some form of HIER, including microwave or other heat producing 
> methods and with
> different buffers.     Enzyme digestion is also a possibility.
>
>
>
> Hand removed MMA with xylene, warm my speed up the removal, also more than
> one change for 10 - 20 minutes or longer.   When I talked to him
> personally,
> he said he had used warm xylene although temperature was not mentioned in
> his chapter.   After MMA removal, rehydrate section through alcohol
> gradient
> as one does paraffin sections.    He was emphatic about never allowing the
> sections dry out.
>
>
>
> Hopefully Jack Ratliff and Damien Laudier will provide more insight on 
> this topic.
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Gayle M. Callis
>
> HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ******************************************
>
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>
>
> If is it possible a few more specifics of how the tissue has been 
> received,
>
> processed and evaluated would help.  Undecalcified bone sectioning
>
> procedures vary and also what specific markers are you looking to do 
> is
>
> important.
>
>
>
> Vikki
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> 
> yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Undecalcified? How are you going to section it?
>
> > If you can section it, just use any IHC protocol for regular sections.
>
> > Good luck!
>
> > Ren? J.
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/12/12, Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com>
>
> > Subject: [Histonet] Undecalcified bone IHC
>
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>
> > Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 10:59 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have a protocol for Undecalcified bone for IHC?
>
> >
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:35:47 -0500
From: "Giroux, Stacy" <Stacy.Giroux <@t> stjohn.org>
Subject: [Histonet] Gram Stain
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Hi,

Our lab is currently transitioning from the Brown & Brenn gram stain due to no longer wanting to store picric acid due to its potential hazards. Our pathologists have requested a gram stain for paraffin embedded tissue that looks similar but does not use picric acid or ether. Does anyone have any suggestions on stains that could be used or gram stain kits that are available for purchase that are good?

Thank you for your help,
Stacy




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:31:44 -0400
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Subject: [Histonet] DAKO Autostainer Issues
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   We  have been having issues with our Autostainer since bringing it out
   of  storage.  All  parts  are  in  excellent  shape,  according to the
   technician  that  performed the PM.  It worked fine for a month of so,
   but  then  began  malfunctioning after only a couple of staining runs.
   At some point in the staining process, the machine appears to lose its
   XY  homing  and jams itself against the front right corner, dispensing
   buffer  onto the floor of the chamber and occasionally making grinding
   noises.   We've  had  a  technician  take  a  look  at it, 'clean' the
   software,  and  we thought we had it resolved, but the problem appears
   to be back.
   Has  anyone  experienced  this  issue?  If  so,  was  it  hardware- or
   software- based?
   Thanks in advance!

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:34:20 -0700
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Subject: [Histonet] Color Blindness Testing
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   Does  anyone  know of any (free) online testing for color blindness   Does  anyone  have an alternate method that they have used to satisfy   CAP requirements?









   Laurie


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 14:42:44 -0400
From: Drew Meyer <41dmb41 <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] DAKO Autostainer Issues
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There's a circuit board on the arm near the barcode scanner that controls the movement and orientation of the arm. If that circuitboard malfunctions, then you can see some of the erratic behavior that you are describing. That's one possibility I can think of that might cause that kind of problem. However, the technician who looked at it should be able to troubleshoot and replace that board if it is a problem.

Drew

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On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Friedrich_Hahn <@t> bd.com wrote:

>
>   We  have been having issues with our Autostainer since bringing it out
>   of  storage.  All  parts  are  in  excellent  shape,  according to the
>   technician  that  performed the PM.  It worked fine for a month of so,
>   but  then  began  malfunctioning after only a couple of staining runs.
>   At some point in the staining process, the machine appears to lose its
>   XY  homing  and jams itself against the front right corner, dispensing
>   buffer  onto the floor of the chamber and occasionally making grinding
>   noises.   We've  had  a  technician  take  a  look  at it, 'clean' the
>   software,  and  we thought we had it resolved, but the problem appears
>   to be back.
>   Has  anyone  experienced  this  issue?  If  so,  was  it  hardware- or
>   software- based?
>   Thanks in advance!
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:49:10 -0700
From: "Jeffery Howery" <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC for decalcified bone protocol
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Anyone have a Protocol for Decalcified bone for IHC?



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 20:51:26 +0200
From: Mehmet Fatih BOZKURT <fbozkurt <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC for decalcified bone protocol
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cool !!

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com>wrote:

> Anyone have a Protocol for Decalcified bone for IHC?
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 13:08:55 -0600
From: "gayle callis" <gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Gram Stain
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Stacy,

You can buy a complete Brown and Brenn staining kit from Newcomer Supply
which is very good, and not change your method.   The picric acid/acetone
mixture is included and you wouldn't have to store stock picric acid nor ether in the lab but just this small amount of Picric acid/acetone that
comes in the kit.  Disposal should not be that much of a problem.   They
also have a Hucker Twort Gram stain that uses acetone for destaining and you supply the acetone.  Poly Scientific has Gram Stain kit (Hucker
modification) which uses Grams decolorizer, a mixture of acetone and alcohol.  They have excellent staining kits too.

Gayle Callis
HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)


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Subject: [Histonet] Gram Stain

Hi,

Our lab is currently transitioning from the Brown & Brenn gram stain due to no longer wanting to store picric acid due to its potential hazards. Our pathologists have requested a gram stain for paraffin embedded tissue that looks similar but does not use picric acid or ether. Does anyone have any suggestions on stains that could be used or gram stain kits that are available for purchase that are good?

Thank you for your help,
Stacy




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:35:48 -0400
From: Courtney Pierce <Courtney.Pierce <@t> quintiles.com>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC Slides
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Having problems with IHC slides not looking the same between runs. Does it have to do with how long and at what temp they are in the oven for?

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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC Slides
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Not really. Time in the oven and temp is usually not an issue as long as the tissue is well fixed/processed/infiltrated.
Ren? J.

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Subject: [Histonet] IHC Slides
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 3:35 PM


Having problems with IHC slides not looking the same between runs. Does it have to do with how long and at what temp they are in the oven for?

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:38:11 +0000
From: "Tony Henwood (SCHN)" <tony.henwood <@t> health.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Gram Stain
To: "'Giroux, Stacy'" <Stacy.Giroux <@t> stjohn.org>,
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Stacy,

There are several Gram stain variants that do not use Picric acid.

Tworts variant uses fast green and neutral red  after the crystal violet-Iodine steps.

Brown-Hopps method uses Basic Fuchsin, Gallego's differentiator and 1.5% Tartrazine after the crystal-violet steps, to stain the gram negative bugs.

A simple red counterstain is to stain sections with 1% aqueous neutral red for 3 min after the crystal violet-Iodine steps

Regards
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Hi,

Our lab is currently transitioning from the Brown & Brenn gram stain due to no longer wanting to store picric acid due to its potential hazards. Our pathologists have requested a gram stain for paraffin embedded tissue that looks similar but does not use picric acid or ether. Does anyone have any suggestions on stains that could be used or gram stain kits that are available for purchase that are good?

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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:19:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chakib Boussahmain <chak_bou <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] CD34
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Hello histonet,
Does anyone using CD34? if so, can you share the staining protocol with us? and what are you using for antigen retrieval?
Thank you so much.
Chakib Boussahmain
HTL(ASCP)

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 21:26:20 -0400
From: ADESUPO ADESUYI <adesupo2002 <@t> hotmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Liver Biopsy Processing Schedule
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   Hi,

      I was wondering if anyone can share their LIVER Biopsy Processing Schedule with me?



 Thanks,



Ade


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:06:01 +0000
From: "Thotakura, Anil Kumar" <a.thotakura <@t> imperial.ac.uk>
Subject: [Histonet] CD45.1 & CD45.2 IF on parrafin sections.
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Dear All,

I want to do immunofluorescence on formalin fixed paraffin sections,  Can you guys help me sending protocol how to do it ?

Thank you very much for your help.

BW
Anil


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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:29:17 -0500
From: "Bliven, Laura" <bliven.laura <@t> marshfieldclinic.org>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC Processor Validation & MUM1
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1. Any feedback on the process for validating a new tissue processor? Finding 80 to 100 breast specimens that are large enough to divide up and retest Estrogen and Progesterone would take a long time to complete. Also, how many antibodies and specimens should be tested? As we all know, some tumors are very rare and it's only after they are processed that we really know their diagnosis. We will be keeping some current processors, just adding a new one.

2. Also, any feedback on clones for MUM1? The antibody we are currently validating is staining some follicular lymphomas which should generally be negative. I do not feel the antigen retrieval is too harsh and believe it may be the clone.

Thanks,
Laura

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:54:27 -0500
From: Sabrina Townsend <histogirl4 <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Ihc validation
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I am having to validate antibodies and was wondering if you have to do a parallel study or just use known positive and negative tissue?

~Sabrina~


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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:50:23 -0400
From: Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re:  undecalcified bone IHC
To: Gayle Callis <gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net>, Histonet
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I might also add that Neil Hand is co-speaking with myself and Philip Seifert this year at the annual National Society for Histotechnology - Symposium/Convention in Vancouver B.C. Our workshop is titled:

Resin Applications Forum: Methods for Processing, Special Staining, Immunohistochemical and In Situ Hybridization of Soft and Hard Tissue Including Medical Device Implants

During the last 50 years, numerous histological procedures have been described on resin embedded tissue. While different types of resins are available for different purposes, the acrylics provide the widest range of techniques, especially for light microscopy applications. However, as demand from H&E to more sophisticated techniques increases, so too have the problems, and nowhere is this more apparent and controversial than in the application of immunohistochemistry on resin sections. This workshop will provide a review and discussion for those individuals that currently work with and/or are just getting started working with soft and hard tissue specimens and specifically the various resins (i.e. MMA, GMA, Technovit, Acrylosin, etc.) associated with their specific tissue interests. The workshop will also detail the preparation and staining of sections of soft and hard tissue, including implants (e.g. undemineralized bone and cardiovascular stents), for immunohistochemical and in situ hybridization staining using different acrylic and epoxy resin embedding media. Specific problems and pitfalls, either technical or operational associated with certain resin embedding procedures, will be illustrated and examined. Particular emphasis will be given to procedures which have been used extensively for routine diagnostic, and research purposes, i.e. those that WORK! Individuals with a current or future intent to process and cut undemineralized tissue or tissue containing foreign implant materials using acrylic or epoxy resins are strongly encouraged to attend this workshop!

Please feel free to contact me if you would like more information about the workshop as information relevant to the exact date and time becomes available. All I know at this time is that the NSH meeting is September 29th - October 3rd, 2012.

Best Regards,

Jack


Jack Ratliff
Hard Tissue Histologist
Chairman, Hard Tissue Committee - National Society for Histotechnology




> From: gayle.callis <@t> bresnan.net
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:04:20 -0600
> Subject: [Histonet] Re: undecalcified bone IHC
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> It is most certainly possible to do IHC on undecalcifed bone sections 
> embedded in PMMA although not the easiest task. Sectioning is done on 
> a microtome that is powerful enough to cut the plastic and using 
> tungsten carbide knives. The key is total removal of the plastic from 
> MMA embedded bone sections to allow antibody/ immunoglobulins to access antigenic sites.
> Neil Hand has done IHC successfully on PMMA embedded tissues including 
> undecalcified bone on 2 to 3 ?m thick sections. I think one could cut 
> thicker sections at 4 to 5 ?m and still be successful. I do not recall 
> what Troiano et al used.
>
>
>
> The following publications will help you and should include protocols, 
> although conventional protocols will work according to Hand.
>
>
>
> Blythe D. Hand N et al 1997 J Clin Path 50:45-49. The use of methyl 
> methacrylate resin for embedding bone marrow trephine biopsies.
>
> Hand NM et al 1996 Antigen unmasking using microwave heating on 
> formalin fixed tissue embedded in methyl methacrylate J Cellular Path 
> 1:31-37
>
> Jackson P et al. 1996 Amplification of immunocytochemical reactions by 
> the catalytic deposition of biotin on tissue sections. J Path 
> 170(suppl):23A. This was about tyramide amplification when one gets a 
> weak signal from "conventional" methods.
>
> Hand NM, Church RJ 1998 Superheating using pressure cooking: its use 
> and application in unmasking antigens embedded in methyl methacrylate. 
> J Histotechnology 2`:231-236
>
> Hand NM et al 1989 Immunohistochemistry on resin embedded tissue for 
> light
> microscopy: a novel post embedding procedure. Proceeding Royal 
> Microscopical Society 24(1):A54-55.
>
> Hand NM Plastic Embedding media and techniques, Ch.30, p 663-677. 
> Theory and Practice of Histological Technique, 5th edition by Gamble and Bancroft.
> The 6th edition is updated under same title.
>
>
>
> Use Google Scholar to find Troiano N et al from Yale on doing IHC on 
> PMMA embedded bone sections with publications in J Histotechnology.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hand mentioned several HIER methods, using citrate buffer. Optimizing 
> retrieval will depend on the antigen and you may end up doing this 
> with some form of HIER, including microwave or other heat producing 
> methods and with different buffers. Enzyme digestion is also a possibility.
>
>
>
> Hand removed MMA with xylene, warm my speed up the removal, also more 
> than one change for 10 - 20 minutes or longer. When I talked to him 
> personally, he said he had used warm xylene although temperature was 
> not mentioned in his chapter. After MMA removal, rehydrate section 
> through alcohol gradient as one does paraffin sections. He was 
> emphatic about never allowing the sections dry out.
>
>
>
> Hopefully Jack Ratliff and Damien Laudier will provide more insight on 
> this topic.
>
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
>
> Gayle M. Callis
>
> HTL/HT/MT(ASCP)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ******************************************
>
>
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
>
>
> If is it possible a few more specifics of how the tissue has been 
> received,
>
> processed and evaluated would help. Undecalcified bone sectioning
>
> procedures vary and also what specific markers are you looking to do 
> is
>
> important.
>
>
>
> Vikki
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> 
> yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Undecalcified? How are you going to section it?
>
> > If you can section it, just use any IHC protocol for regular sections.
>
> > Good luck!
>
> > Ren? J.
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 3/12/12, Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: Jeffery Howery <Jeffery.Howery <@t> jcl.com>
>
> > Subject: [Histonet] Undecalcified bone IHC
>
> > To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>
> > Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 10:59 AM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Does anyone have a protocol for Undecalcified bone for IHC?
>
> >
>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] CD34
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Chakib Boussahmain
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Becton-Dickinson Monoclonal antibody at 1:100 for 30 minutes after HIER (citrate at pH6) with placenta as control.
Ren? J.

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From: Chakib Boussahmain <chak_bou <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] CD34
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 9:19 PM


Hello histonet,
Does anyone using CD34? if so, can you share the staining protocol with us? and what are you using for antigen retrieval?
Thank you so much.
Chakib Boussahmain
HTL(ASCP)
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:25:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] IHC Processor Validation & MUM1
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
        <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,    LauraBliven
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CAP has some guidelines as to the number of specimens and antibodies to test. I think to remember that the lowest amount was 25 specimens, but I do not remember about the antibodies but it makes sense to use only those your use to work with.
Ren? J.

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From: Bliven, Laura <bliven.laura <@t> marshfieldclinic.org>
Subject: [Histonet] IHC Processor Validation & MUM1
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2012, 9:29 AM



1. Any feedback on the process for validating a new tissue processor? Finding 80 to 100 breast specimens that are large enough to divide up and retest Estrogen and Progesterone would take a long time to complete. Also, how many antibodies and specimens should be tested? As we all know, some tumors are very rare and it's only after they are processed that we really know their diagnosis. We will be keeping some current processors, just adding a new one.

2. Also, any feedback on clones for MUM1? The antibody we are currently validating is staining some follicular lymphomas which should generally be negative. I do not feel the antigen retrieval is too harsh and believe it may be the clone.

Thanks,
Laura

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