[Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

[Patsy Ruegg]

I need to correct my statement about ER Sp1 being sold in Europe by Leica
after taking it off the market in the USA, I was confusing this ab with the
HER2 CB11 that Leica was still selling in Europe and not the USA, they had
to take it off the market in US to get FDA approval which they apparently
just got.  I apologize for this misinformation, I am getting old and can't
keep things straight anymore, and it was the HER2 CB11 I stock piled not the
ER SP1.

Best regards,
Patsy

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg Consulting
40864 Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
Phone: 303-644-4538
Fax: 720-859-4110
pruegg <@t> ihctech.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Patsy Ruegg [mailto:pruegg <@t> ihctech.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:45 PM
To: 'Morken, Timothy'; 'Kim Donadio'
Cc: '<Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

Yea you are right Tim, I just wonder what ever happened to trying to get the
best ab for the patient, SP1 is in my opinion the best ER ab but now the
patient suffers because we can't use what is best for them, there is
something wrong with that picture.

Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
Ruegg Consulting
40864 Arkansas Ave
Bennett, CO 80102
Phone: 303-644-4538
Fax: 720-859-4110
pruegg <@t> ihctech.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Morken, Timothy [mailto:Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 4:05 PM
To: Kim Donadio; Patsy Ruegg
Cc: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

It is most likely licensing issues between companies. A company may carry it
under license from another company but the terms change and the licensee
either loses the license (the other company won't license it), can't afford
it or other issues. 

For example, when I worked in the antibody industry  we had several
antibodies for a certain target but another company got a patent on the
target and all antibodies to the target (still not sure why that is
possible!). They finally decided to enforce their patent and wanted a
licensing fee that was higher than our annual sales of all the antibodies
put together. Obviously not a viable deal for our company. 

Tim Morken

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kim Donadio
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:55 PM
To: Patsy Ruegg
Cc: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

I'm curious as to why all if a sudden some of these can be sold else where
and not in the USA. Is it a FDA issue? 

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On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:45 PM, "Patsy Ruegg" <pruegg <@t> ihctech.net> wrote:

>> From what I understand the SP1 Er clone has also been discontinued in 
>> USA by
> Leica/Novacastra, I am told it is still being sold by Leica in Europe?  
> Must be another licensing issue because some are soooo greedy.  I knew 
> this was going to happen and stock piled some of the ER SP1, but it 
> won't last forever.
> 
> Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Ruegg Consulting
> 40864 Arkansas Ave
> Bennett, CO 80102
> Phone: 303-644-4538
> Fax: 720-859-4110
> pruegg <@t> ihctech.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Leigh 
> York
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:06 PM
> To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1
> 
> Dako is going to discontinue the ER , SP1 clone.  We really want to 
> use the
> SP1 clone, but do not want to use an ASR.  We can get it from Ventana 
> only we are told.  Can anyone elaborate on how they are handling this 
> in their lab or if they have switched to an ASR?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Leigh York
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