[Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

[Marsh, Nannette]

I love the comparison :-) 

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Cremer
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

That drives me up the wall as well. How can you possibly patent something that has been made by nature, and in theory is present in every single human being (I'm talking about any random gene here)? That would be like Newton patenting gravity and then going around and charging everyone a licensing fee for staying on earth instead of floating off in space, or claiming every apple that has fallen off a tree.
It's ridiculous!
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Van: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] namens Morken, Timothy [Timothy.Morken <@t> ucsfmedctr.org]
Verzonden: vrijdag 13 juli 2012 0:05
To: Kim Donadio; Patsy Ruegg
Cc: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Onderwerp: RE: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

It is most likely licensing issues between companies. A company may carry it under license from another company but the terms change and the licensee either loses the license (the other company won't license it), can't afford it or other issues.

For example, when I worked in the antibody industry  we had several antibodies for a certain target but another company got a patent on the target and all antibodies to the target (still not sure why that is possible!). They finally decided to enforce their patent and wanted a licensing fee that was higher than our annual sales of all the antibodies put together. Obviously not a viable deal for our company.

Tim Morken

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:55 PM
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1

I'm curious as to why all if a sudden some of these can be sold else where and not in the USA. Is it a FDA issue?

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On Jul 12, 2012, at 5:45 PM, "Patsy Ruegg" <pruegg <@t> ihctech.net> wrote:

>> From what I understand the SP1 Er clone has also been discontinued in 
>> USA by
> Leica/Novacastra, I am told it is still being sold by Leica in Europe?
> Must be another licensing issue because some are soooo greedy.  I knew 
> this was going to happen and stock piled some of the ER SP1, but it 
> won't last forever.
>
> Patsy Ruegg, HT(ASCP)QIHC
> Ruegg Consulting
> 40864 Arkansas Ave
> Bennett, CO 80102
> Phone: 303-644-4538
> Fax: 720-859-4110
> pruegg <@t> ihctech.net
>
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> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Leigh 
> York
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:06 PM
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> Subject: [Histonet] ER, Clone SP1
>
> Dako is going to discontinue the ER , SP1 clone.  We really want to 
> use the
> SP1 clone, but do not want to use an ASR.  We can get it from Ventana 
> only we are told.  Can anyone elaborate on how they are handling this 
> in their lab or if they have switched to an ASR?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Leigh York
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