[Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update--requested link
Weems, Joyce
JWeems <@t> sjha.org
Thu Jan 26 11:58:21 CST 2012
Yes, That is my understanding.
I hope Dr. Raff gets some results!
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
Saint Joseph's Hospital
5665 Peachtree Dunwoody Rd NE
Atlanta, GA 30342
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update--requested link
Also, is the billing (or lack of) the same if you stain with a cocktail as opposed to a double stain?
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update--requested link
This is how I understand it.
You can bill for multiple different antibodies on the same specimen, but not for multiple blocks of the same ab on the same specimen.
e.g.
Sentinel nodes on melanoma case...
Blocks, A1 A2, A3 - Melan A, HMB45, S100 - 3 88342s (intead of the 9 that we could have charged last year) Blocks B1, B2, B3 - Melan A, HMB45, S100 - 3 88342s (intead of the 9 that we could have charged last year) Blocks C1, C2, C3 - Melan A, HMB45, S100 - 3 88342s (intead of the 9 that we could have charged last year)
Joyce Weems
Pathology Manager
Saint Joseph's Hospital
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Atlanta, GA 30342
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Sorry for my redundancy in sending this message....I could not seem to get my act together in sending it in properly. : )
Valerie
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update--requested link
Ok folks...sorry for revisting this issue...but I must. We are contemplating revamping our immuno stains, we have gotten a proposal from a new vendor, and I have been put to the task of figuring out if this proposal is going to be feasible.
I understand that we are only allow to bill per specimen "part" not per block for the immunos, I am a little cloudy on one issue, however.
Are we allowed to bill for multiple antibodies on the same specimen part or not?
Does this guideline mean that the hospital will only get paid for 1 immuno antibody technical charge even if we do multiple antibodies on that one specimen?
Thanks for any and all imput!!
Valerie A. Hannen, MLT(ASCP),HTL,SU(FL)
Histology Section Chief
Parrish Medical Center
951 N. Washington Ave.
Titusville, Florida 32976
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
Here is the link:
https://www.cms.gov/NationalCorrectCodInitEd/
This will take you to a folder of zipped documents, one of which is the lab coding rules.
Yes this link would be great to share.
Thanks
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
Do you have the link to this new guideline? The site can be difficult to navigate.
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Subject: RE: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
Below is the quote from the new NCCI guidelines that deal with this issue. I am amazed that CAP and ASCP, have not been 1) notifying members and 2) disputing this change.
"The unit of service for immunohistochemistry (CPT codes 88342, 88360, 88361) is each antibody(s) stain (procedure) per specimen. If a single immunohistochemical stain (procedure) for one or more antibodies is performed on multiple blocks from a surgical specimen, multiple slides from a cytologic specimen, or multiple slides from a hematologic specimen, only one unit of service may be reported for each separate specimen. Physicians should not report more than one unit of service per specimen for an immunohistochemical antibody(s) stain (procedure) even if it contains multiple separately interpretable antibodies"
Lester J. Raff, MD
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
Don't you think we havea hand in this reporting out this CPT code so much,, I would expect this to be bundled here soon in a DRG for pathology services,, that's where it is headed.
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On Dec 30, 2011, at 2:22 PM, "histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com" <histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com> wrote:
> Wow. What made them change their minds? There are many times when we
> stain different blocks of a single specimen and only one lights up.
>
> I, too, would be interested in an official document stating the change.
>
> Thanks!
> Michelle
>
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> McKenzie
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 3:07 PM
> To: Martha Ward-Pathology; Webb, Dorothy L;
> 'histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
> Subject: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
>
> Where can I get the article to show my billing dept/pathologists?
>
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> Ward-Pathology
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> Subject: [Histonet] RE: NCCI policy update
>
> Oh yes, we are very aware and quite upset at the change!
>
>
> Martha Ward, MT (ASCP) QIHC
> Manager, Molecular Diagnostics Lab
> Dept. of Pathology
> Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center Winston-Salem, NC 27157
> 336-716-2104
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>
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> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Webb,
> Dorothy L
> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 1:33 PM
> To: 'histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu'
> Subject: [Histonet] NCCI policy update
>
> Is everyone aware that beginning 1/1/12, we can no longer bill for
> each block regarding IHC billing, only one unit of billing for each
> part type no matter how many blocks are stained? Also IHC "cocktail"
> stains, such as
> PIN4 must now be billed as one unit even though multiple antibodies
> are reported out.
>
> Kind of a surprising reversal of the policy set in motion 10/1/2009.
> SPECIMEN becomes the unit of service rather than block(s) for IHC
> codes 88342, 88360, and 88361.
>
> Happy New Year to everyone out there. May 2012 find you happiness and
> health!
>
> Dorothy Webb, HT
> Regions Histology TS
> 651-254-2962
>
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