AW: [Histonet] RE: Proteolytic enzyme pretreatment before immunostaining

Gudrun Lang gu.lang <@t>
Wed Aug 1 11:27:37 CDT 2012

I think formalin fixation does something similar to enzyme-"binding" as to
antibody-binding, if the enzyme has a specific binding site. The aminoacids
are masked by methylol-adducts and therefore the protein is protected
against eg pepsin.
So using combinated HIER and PIER is not only summarizing the effects. HIER
renders PIER more effective and therefore more aggressive.

Gudrun Lang

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Betreff: [Histonet] RE: Proteolytic enzyme pretreatment before

The proteolytic activity of the enzymes can be non-specific (Pronase) or
specific (peptide bonds at lysine and arginine residues, Trypsin).  The
effect of formalin fixation is not identified, so we always assess Pepsin,
Trypsin and Pronase along with heat retrieval methods regardless of what the
supplier data sheet recommends.    


Dear Histonetters,

Could anyone explain about the difference between proteolytic enzymes for

We use enzyme pretreatment rarely nowadays, and apart from some ready-to-use
one (Dako's Proteinase K), I have used Protease (Sigma) previously when I
did manual staining.

At the moment I am using Leica's BondMax autostainer and their enzyme
pretreatment kit (Trypsin ??, usually one drop per 7 ml vial). I know the
pretreatment condition would be affected by the concentration of enzymes,
pH, temperature, incubation time etc.


My question is that do they have different mode of action on tissues? I am
helping a research project and our antibody includes various clones of
Integrin 6 subunit and uPAR.

I have tried enzyme pretreatment with autostainer and manual staining with
Proteinase K (Dako). It seems that some antibodies work better with certain

I mean that some antibodies work well after BondMax enzyme treatment, but
some antibody works better with proteinase K pretreatment manually.
I am using the same polymer detection system (Leica Microsystem) for both

I would like to find an enzyme which works for both of our antibodies at the
same time.

Thank you.




Young Kwun

Senior Hospital Scientist


Dept. of Anatomical Pathology

Concord Repatriation General Hospital

Concord NSW 2139 Australia


02-9767-6075 (Tel)

02-9767-8427 (Fax)

Young.Kwun <@t>



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