[Histonet] RE: Qualifications for grossing

Nicole Tatum nicole <@t> dlcjax.com
Wed Apr 25 14:26:35 CDT 2012

>Im sorry you feel that way about me. There is nothing snide here. I
respect your opinion and have no foul words for you. Im happy that you
have earned your education. I currently am in school trying to further
mine, and I belive an education is so important. To a person and a
profession. Have a wonderful day.

Nicole Tatum, HT ASCP

 Try to keep your snide remarks quiet, and respond with some degree of
> respect. We will not always agree, but there is no "strike" there. You
> dislike me,, that's fine. But keep your personal comments to yourself.
> If you can be that mature.
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Nicole Tatum
> Sent: 4/25/2012 12:09 PM
> To: Joanne Clark; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] RE: Qualifications for grossing
> Yupp he strikes again.
> Joanne,
> I strongly agree with your perspective. Many Techs do not have formal
> expensive educations and have sat on the bench for many years and
> eventually became grandfathered in. Those techs are the life blood of
> pathology. It has only been in recent years that licensure has become a
> larger part of health care requiring personal to obtain certification to
> "hopefully" increase patient care. But, this argument is becoming a thing
> of the past, because CLIA, CAP, JOCA have set standards that personal must
> meet regardless of the extensive OJT. I am qualified to gross based on
> these accrediators standards. It is others opinions that think these
> "standards" are weak. If the argument is greed, than people should
> understand that employee payroll is the highest cost within a laboratory
> so to help cut cost to our bankrupt health care system, why not pay a
> Histologist who is clearly qualified to do a job they have been doing
> since the beginning of pathology.
> The pathologists’ assistant profession began in 1969 with a pilot training
> program at the Veterans Administration Medical Center (VAMC) in Durham,
> North Carolina.
> In 1856 William Perkin discovered the dye mauve that was used in the early
> 1860s by F W B Benke of Marlbery. Joseph Janavier Woodward, a surgeon in
> the US Army, used fuchsine and aniline blue to stain human intestines.
> Paul Ehrlich realized that the chemical dyes obtained from coal tar did
> not simply color cells but combined with the chemical elements within them
> to form new substances. The Swiss chemist Friedrich Miescher, in 1869 used
> aniline dyes to examine the cell nucleus. In 1875 Carl Weigart, Ehrlich's
> cousin, demonstrated the fuchsine derivative methyl violet stained
> bacteria as opposed to tissue.
> The first histologist, Marcello Malpighi (1628-1694), an Italian
> anatomist, is in fact considered the true “Father of Histology”.
> 1819, A. Mayer created the term Histology. In the sequence of the previous
> word tissue, made use of two classical Greek root words (histos = tissue
> and logos = study
> So, my point is I do believe Histo's have been involved since the very
> beginning. We as a profession have a combined experience well beyond that
> of any formal education.
> Last thought, and I quote, "I know I would make mistakes, and mistakes may
> be considered part of the learning process, but do we really want to
> accept that in  health care? Mistakes should happen in school, not with a
> real, live patients tissue."
> This statement clearly conflicts with all aspect of becoming a medical
> professional. Our state/government funded hospitals employ thousands of
> residents each year who treat thousands of indigent and paying patients.
> This is their school. Histologist do interships within hospitals to get
> training. This is their school to. Nurses, MLT's, MA's, everyone in health
> care learns the actual (beyond books)trade from watching and working with
> skilled persons who have many years of experience. They would not place a
> student with a person who has a degree but no experience. My education
> qualifies me to be trained by anyone in my field of pathology, and I
> should be used where my skills will best serve my department and increase
> patient care. Each one of us serves a purpose and is valuable, no matter
> what job we perform with what amount of education. The law is weeding out
> those who are no longer qualified to work in out field, they set the
> standard. Let's let them make the decisions on who is qualified to do what
> and stick together to ensure its fair to each one of us.
> Can't we all just get along...hehehehehe
> Nicole Tatum HT, ASCP
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