[Histonet] LIS questions

Michael Mihalik mike <@t> pathview.com
Tue Apr 24 10:52:13 CDT 2012

Good morning,

I’d like to take up the issue of server vs cloud in Kelly’s original email.
I have some thoughts that I’d like to share, but more importantly, I’d like
to hear other people’s opinions.   This is going to be a continuing ‘hot
topic’ in the LIS world for years to come and I think it would be nice to
have some sort of list for people to start thinking about.  I am aware that
traditionally there has not been a lot of LIS involvement in the histology
laboratory, but with the advent of 'barcode tracking' and new quality
initiatives, I am sure that this is about to change.
1.        More control – you know where your data resides and you have full
control over it.
2.       Ostensibly faster, because you’re just sharing your data traffic
internally, not across the world web.
3.       We know this model works in both low and large volume operations.
1.        You’re responsible for maintaining the server – operating system
patches which occur every few months it seems and daily backups.
2.       Cost associated with the server(s) – Often times there will be 2
servers – production and development, plus there is a license fee.  Bottom
line, think around 10, 000 to 20,000.  You also need a ‘place’ to put the
1.       A user can get to the system from everywhere  -- great if you don’t
have an infrastructure already in place.
2.      No hardware costs for the server, but I would imagine that there is
some fee hidden somewhere – nothing in life is free, right?
1.       No control over your data.  It can reside anywhere in the world and
who knows how the local laws protect your data.  If the data resides in the
US, that’s less of a concern.  With less control, you never really know if
your backups are occurring or not.  
2.      Because you’re on the web, the potential exists for a slower system.
This is probably not as important when a pathologist is signing out a case,
but depending on the LIS, it could be a big problem, if there is a lot of
user interaction.  For instance, anything to do with blocks or slides which
can be numerous and require rapid processing, could be an issue.  In my own
experience, I’ve waited on a ‘web page refresh’ for several seconds from
time to time.  If my specials are due out at 10 a.m. and it’s 9:45, I don’t
have time for a slow connection.
3.      With current technology, instrument interfaces can be difficult
because they require more of a realtime or ‘very fast’ response.
4.      Does anyone know of a large volume lab that uses a web based LIS
where the LIS requires quick response time?
5.      What happens if I change from a web based LIS.  I ‘assume’ I don’t
get access to my data unless I continue to pay some sort of fee.  With a
server based system, I can stop paying maintenance, but I can still access
my data.
What do you all think?  Do you disagree with the list?  Do you have more to
Bottom line, I think for me, and remember, I’m an LIS vendor myself, system
functionality would still be a priority as far as system selection is
concerned.  The ‘feel of the company’ would be my next critical concern, and
then I would think about cost and technology.

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Kelly Boyd
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:31 AM
To: histonet
Subject: [Histonet] LIS questions


Is anyone out there familiar with any of the following LIS systems, if so,
what are your thoughts??  AIM Path Software systems, Wavefront Software,
What are the opinions out there for a server based system versus a cloud

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