[Histonet] Re: Is anybody hiring techs without a certification?
Jennifer MacDonald
JMacDonald <@t> mtsac.edu
Sun May 8 20:30:23 CDT 2011
Pamela,
Thank you for clarifying. This is not what I understood from you first
post.
Jennifer
Pamela Marcum <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>
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Re: [Histonet] Re: Is anybody hiring techs without a certification?
Jennifer,
I am not sure you understood that I know the paths to getting
registration. We can argue this forever however; the outcome is the same
too little; too late for Histology to grow. No one in a Med Tech program
since the middle 60's is required to even set foot in Histology so we are
the not known and will not be until we or one of these organizations goes
beyond lip service and promises. After 40 years I am still asked what
kind of history I teach. I explain what we do and generally hear of
that's great, never knew you guys existed. I go to schools when I can
someone to invite me and still it is not a field anyone knows.
We currently have two people training in our lab. One has an AA and the
other an AS degree. Both are taking additional science and chemistry
courses to help them understand what they are being taught. I am the
person in charge of the Histology Lab, the Gross Room and the Morgue. So,
Yes I know the paths for all three areas. Unfortunately, the ASCP and NSH
are aware and still when there is a meeting for CLMA , ASCP or other areas
of the laboratory you will be lucky to find a lecture on anything to do
with Histology whether local or national. No funds are available for
anyone to go to a meeting or travel. IF NSH is not local most people
can't get there. So exactly where are we to get education CEUs if no one
will pay for them and we are at the lowest end of the pay scale and
can't? Most of the Histologist here are unable to travel more than 10 to
50 miles for a meeting even in the state.
We are at a University and have been told point blank no education money
(time off only), no classes unless they are free and oh by the way be sure
the new ones get their CEUs to keep their registries. We have also been
told anyone without a BS will be paid like a LST and the HT does not
qualify them for a raise or higher pay. I have friends at other major
institutes who are being told the same thing. We ask in the early 90's
for the education levels to be raised by NSH and still took years to
happen. I have been in Histology for over 40 years and still love the
field, just hate the way we are treated in comparison to the CP area. Try
hiring someone under the new guidelines for grossing without a PA license
and see what you get. It is just as hard and just a few schools for that
field too. When you get the PA license try getting the pay outside a
major metropolitan area.
Pam Marcum
Still my opinion
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From: "Jennifer MacDonald" < JMacDonald @ mtsac . edu >
To: "Pamela Marcum" <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [ Histonet ] Re: Is anybody hiring techs without a
certification?
The NSH and ASCP are well aware of the lack of schools, but are powerless
to do anything about it. With cutbacks in education and healthcare
schools and hospitals are cutting back on training as it takes time and
money. What type of assistance are you speaking about for the OJT people
who have the AA/AS? The ASCP recognizes these individuals through route 2
for the HT ( ASCP ) exam.
One of the reasons that our program and others do not take more students
is that we cannot find facilities that are willing to take on the clinical
experience for students. Many of the histology labs are unwilling or
unable to train students. What type of action would you like the NSH and
ASCP to take?
Jennifer MacDonald
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From: "Jennifer MacDonald" < JMacDonald @ mtsac . edu >
To: "Pamela Marcum" <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>
Cc: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu , histonet -bounces <@t> lists.
utsouthwestern . edu , "Robert Richmond" < rsrichmond @ gmail .com>
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2011 6:07:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ Histonet ] Re: Is anybody hiring techs without a
certification?
The NSH and ASCP are well aware of the lack of schools, but are powerless
to do anything about it. With cutbacks in education and healthcare
schools and hospitals are cutting back on training as it takes time and
money. What type of assistance are you speaking about for the OJT people
who have the AA/AS? The ASCP recognizes these individuals through route 2
for the HT ( ASCP ) exam.
One of the reasons that our program and others do not take more students
is that we cannot find facilities that are willing to take on the clinical
experience for students. Many of the histology labs are unwilling or
unable to train students. What type of action would you like the NSH and
ASCP to take?
Jennifer MacDonald
Pamela Marcum <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>
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Subject Re: [ Histonet ] Re: Is anybody hiring techs
without a certification?
Currently we have too few schools and not enough slots in the schools we
have for Histology to grow ans educate people properly. It is hard to
tell if the ASCP and NSH are just unaware of the issues or not interested
as we see schools close and career days at NSH for high school students
yet no real action. They need to assist what many of us are doing now -
OJT with people who have the AA or AS degree and hope they stay in the
field. The majority of people I meet and tell what I do have no idea that
the field of Histology exists or how important it can be to a patient
having surgery and awaiting a diagnosis.
I currently have two people we are training as we can't find qualified
people here and at least they are the best we could find. The second
issue is pay and the fact that any Histology area controlled by Clinical
Laboratory is in an uphill battle to get salaries raised as the CP people
all seem to feel if you don't have a BS you can't rate better pay. I do
realize we have many MTs in Histology and they usually great for us. It
is the management that cannot get by the requirements to help us go
forward. They should look at the fact many of the Histologist now working
will retire in the next ten years and then where will they be in finding
people for this field?
Pam Marcum
Personal Option
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From: "Robert Richmond" < rsrichmond @ gmail .com>
To: histonet @lists. utsouthwestern . edu
Sent: Sunday, May 8, 2011 12:38:38 PM
Subject: [ Histonet ] Re: Is anybody hiring techs without a certification?
Yvette asks:
>>Is anybody hiring techs without a certification?<<
Is anybody hiring techs WITH a certification? With a coming
retirement, the two labs I'm working in now will have NO certified
histotechs (total of four workers) - all OJT's . Some of them probably
have the educational qualifications to sit the exam, but management
isn't very sympathetic - I'll have to buy them a copy of the 3rd
edition of Freida Carson's book, for starters.
Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN
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