[Histonet] One block per minute
madary <@t> verizon.net
madary <@t> verizon.net
Mon Jun 27 10:04:21 CDT 2011
It seems like this argument has been going on as long as the histonet
= has been here for us. Just because some folks in histoland can cut
60 block= s per minute does not mean that should be the minimum
standard, esp for a n= ew tech, come on that is just dangerous to make
someone that nervous. = When we purchase a car that states it gets 23
mpg city and 31 mpg on the hi= ghway, those are in perfect conditions
when all the stars align, going down= hill in neutral. These so
called intutive managers who expect someone= to cut 60 blocks per hour
clearly never had a pack of blades that took thr= ee minutes to get a
blade to slide out, never had a dull blade, no interrup= tions, no
fire alarms,no call for levels, decals, only had perfect processi= ng,
perfect soak etc. In 30 plus years I have heard so many people tell me
= they can do this, but have never witnessed such an incredible feat,
day in = day out.
Nick(Rocky) Madary, HT/HTL(ASCP)QIHC
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4. How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to cut per (Joanne)<=
BR>5. RE: How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to cut per
(Rittman,= Barry R)
6. How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to cut per (Joann= e)
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8. RE: How many tissues an histo tech is suppos= e to cut per
(Thomas Jasper)
9. RE: Leica Bond for IHCs (Houston, Ron= ald)
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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 2= 3:06:06 +0530 (IST)
From: mani kandan
Subject= : [Histonet] for phd offer
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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 17:49:21 = +0000
From: Nancy Schmitt
Subject: [Histon= et] Leica Bond for IHCs
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Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 12:00:44 -0400
From: Sheila Adey
Subject: [Histonet] Leica Bond for IHCs
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Hello= netters:
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Thanks.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 2= 5 Jun 2011 14:19:01 -0400
From: Amos Brooks
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Hi,=
I prefer to use the plastic two slide mailers that lay the slides
flat.=
The blade edge doesn't come in contact with anything that can mar
it's<= BR>sharpened surface like other blades or the edge of a
container. I also m= ark
the used blades with a sharpie so I can see which blade is totally
s= pent for
facing only, and which portion of the partially used blade is f=
resh. It also
closes up safely so no one can accidentally get cut.
Amos
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 1:00 PM,
wrote:
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2= 011 15:53:39 -0500
> From: "Webb, Dorothy L"
> Subject: [Histonet] blades
> To: "'histonet <@t> lists= .utsouthwestern.edu'"
>
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> Trying to clean up some things hanging = out there in our lab and
wondering
> what everyone does with a blade = that has been used minimally
and tech done
> for the day with the mic= rotome. Where do you store that blade
for use
> tomorrow or do you to= ss and not worry about the cost involved?
I do not
> like them sittin= g on top of the microtome. Any good ideas??
Thanks, as
> always!
&= gt;
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Message: 4
Date: Sa= t, 25 Jun 2011 17:50:14 -0400
From: "Joanne"
Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to
cut
pe= r
To:
Message-ID: <498DDA84FDA= 449B284C69014FBF60684 <@t> JoannePC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"= iso-8859-1"
i've only been working 2 months. although older,= i am new as a
histotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 2011)= .
seems management is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as
cuttin= g goes for me. i have until october to attain this goal.
this minute for cu= tting is to include facing, writing out slides,
cutting, and putting tray i= nto symphony stainer (not to mention
getting up to answer the phone, fieldi= ng questions regarding
send-out cases, and other slight "cutting interrupti= ons). this
seems an extreme, possibly unattainable goal. i'm up for a chall=
enge at age 53, but any advice would be SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
-= -----------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 1= 7:27:05 -0500
From: "Rittman, Barry R"
= Subject: RE: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to
cut= per
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Joanne
I assume that you are not having us on as this seems a = ridiculous
goal to set.
I would ask to look at previous personnel record= s to determine
where the employer managed to find a robot that did this pre=
viously and ask your supervisor to show how he/she cuts one block
per minut= e.
It is obvious that the time taken to carry out cutting depends to a
l= arge extent on the challenge of the tissue blocks.
It is also obvious th= at with such an attitude there will be less
attention to quality and a grea= ter likelihood of errors
occurring.I would point out to management the pote= ntial lawsuits
that might occur if a mistake is made and I suspect that the= y
have not thought this through at all or are just trying to see how
far th= ey can go.
An alternate solution would be for you to ask for a set sum p= er
block and see their response.
53 is no age at all kid so hang in ther= e and if you get an
unfavorable response from management point out the big = job market
out there and the severe lack of skilled histotechs.
My respo= nse to them would be more graphic.
Barry
________________= ________________________
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu=
[histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joanne
[joanne065= 8 <@t> comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:50 PM
To: histonet <@t> lis= ts.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech= is suppose to
cut per
i've only been working 2 months. although old= er, i am new as a
histotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 20= 11).
seems management is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as
cut= ting goes for me. i have until october to attain this goal.
this minute for= cutting is to include facing, writing out slides,
cutting, and putting tra= y into symphony stainer (not to mention
getting up to answer the phone, fie= lding questions regarding
send-out cases, and other slight "cutting interru= ptions). this
seems an extreme, possibly unattainable goal. i'm up for a ch=
allenge at age 53, but any advice would be SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
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Message: 6Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:07:07 -0400
From: "Joanne"
Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to=
cut
per
To:
Message-ID: <9= EB5BC908E6B44D88EB737A79778A3CD <@t> JoannePC>
Content-Type: text/plain; c= harset=3D"iso-8859-1"
i am quite serious in my presentation and requ= est for advice. i
too thought this goal was/is ridiculous to expect/ask for= from
someone so new and to attain in 6 months or less. last monday i
embed= ded 214 blocks and cut 148 between 5am and 10:30am (we had
almost 600 casse= ttes to share among 3 people) . . . .for someone
so very new i thought this= pretty good . . . please note: most
days aren't as hectic. :) what is an a= verage though for
blocks/minute? what is meant by set sum per block? <--= -keeping in
mind i am new to this field.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 20:18:45 -0= 400
From: "histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com" <= BR>Subject: Re: [Histonet]
How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to
= cut per
To: "Rittman, Barry R"
Cc: "his= tonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
M= essage-ID:
<09B3D09F-DD6B-4878-8F9C-5D31485FF5B5 <@t> imagesbyhopper.com><=
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Not to add fuel and = all that... but I can, and regularly do, cut
single slide blocks in less th= an minute per block. I am not a new
tech though, been around the microtome = a few times!
I think the proper approach would be to have the tech *= average*
the number of slides the cut over a period of time. Then watch the=
trend, are you showing improvement over time? I think forward
progress is = what should be watched for, while maintaining
quality. Quality is prarmount= .
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 25, 2011, at 6:27 PM, "Rittman, = Barry R" wrote:
> Joanne
> I a= ssume that you are not having us on as this seems a
ridiculous goal to set.=
> I would ask to look at previous personnel records to determine
whe= re the employer managed to find a robot that did this
previously and ask yo= ur supervisor to show how he/she cuts one
block per minute.
> It is o= bvious that the time taken to carry out cutting depends
to a large extent o= n the challenge of the tissue blocks.
> It is also obvious that with = such an attitude there will be
less attention to quality and a greater like= lihood of errors
occurring.I would point out to management the potential la= wsuits
that might occur if a mistake is made and I suspect that they have
n= ot thought this through at all or are just trying to see how far
they can g= o.
> An alternate solution would be for you to ask for a set sum per =
block and see their response.
> 53 is no age at all kid so hang in th= ere and if you get an
unfavorable response from management point out the bi= g job market
out there and the severe lack of skilled histotechs.
> M= y response to them would be more graphic.
> Barry
>
> >
> ________________________________________
> From: hist= onet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwester= n.edu] On Behalf Of Joanne
[joanne0658 <@t> comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday,= June 25, 2011 4:50 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>= ; Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to cut per<= BR>>
> i've only been working 2 months. although older, i am new = as a
histotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 2011). seems
ma= nagement is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as
cutting goes for= me. i have until october to attain this goal.
this minute for cutting is t= o include facing, writing out slides,
cutting, and putting tray into sympho= ny stainer (not to mention
getting up to answer the phone, fielding questio= ns regarding
send-out cases, and other slight "cutting interruptions). this=
seems an extreme, possibly unattainable goal. i'm up for a
challenge at ag= e 53, but any advice would be SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
>
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Message: 8
Date= : Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:01:53 -0700
From: "Thomas Jasper"
Subject: RE: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to<= BR>cut per
To: "Joanne"
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.u= tsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID:
<90354A475B420441B2A0396E5008D49692C= 037 <@t> copc-sbs.COPC.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-asci= i"
Joanne,
In my humble opinion and without knowing anything = about where you
work,
this expectation is ludicrous. I have a hard time = believing that
anyone, regardless of experience could attain the goal yo= u've
mentioned
(including answering phones and running instruments). The= re are a
multitude of reasons why this is absurd. Suffice it to say, I w=
ould be
suspect of any work coming out of such an operation, not to ment=
ion
those in charge and the poor souls trying to meet this goal.
= I seriously doubt you'll be able to have much say about things
since you
are so new. My advice...get out and find a job working for
realistic
pe= ople.
Good luck,
Tom Jasper
Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS
Histology Supervisor
Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services
Bend= , Oregon 97701
541/693-2677
tjasper <@t> copc.net
-----Original Mes= sage-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:his= tonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Joanne
Sent: Saturd= ay, June 25, 2011 2:50 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subje= ct: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to
cut per
=
i've only been working 2 months. although older, i am new as a
h= istotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 2011).
seems
manag= ement is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as
cutting
goes for= me. i have until october to attain this goal. this minute
for
cutting i= s to include facing, writing out slides, cutting, and
putting
tray into = symphony stainer (not to mention getting up to answer
the
phone, fieldin= g questions regarding send-out cases, and other
slight
"cutting interrup= tions). this seems an extreme, possibly
unattainable
goal. i'm up for a = challenge at age 53, but any advice would be
SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
_= ______________________________________________
Histonet mailing list
= Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailma= n/listinfo/histonet
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 01:22:59 +0000
From: "Houston= , Ronald"
Subject: RE: [Histone= t] Leica Bond for IHCs
To: Sheila Adey ,
"histonet@= lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
Message= -ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"
greatest = thing since sliced bread!
________________________________________From:
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[histonet-bounces <@t> lists.u= tsouthwestern.edu] on behalf of Sheila
Adey [sadey <@t> hotmail.ca]
Sent: Sat= urday, June 25, 2011 12:00 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
S= ubject: [Histonet] Leica Bond for IHCs
Hello netters:
Looking for= opinions on the Leica Bond immuno stainer please.
Thanks.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 18:48:29 -0700
From: "Thom= as Jasper"
Subject: RE: [Histonet] How many tissues a= n histo tech is suppose
to
cut per
To: "Joanne"
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID:
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Well Joanne, someone on the Histonet p= robably has a documented
average.
It is a difficult thing due to the amo= unt of variables that exist
and
the differences from lab to lab. Again, = in my humble opinion (and
not
knowing anything about your workplace) to = me, working in a
mid-sized
clinical service and dealing with the variety= of specimens common
to a
lab such as ours...if someone is cutting 25-30= blocks per hour,
the
sections are high quality and the errors are negli= gible (a
subjective
statement) I would consider that more than acceptabl= e. Others may
be of
a different opinion, however I would be surprised if= someone would
think
that one block per minute is reasonable and realist= ic (except for
your
employers).
I'm sorry to hear that it took y= ou 10 months to secure employment
at
your current "Roman galley" ship of= a service. There are jobs
available
and not enough of us to go around. = I'd seriously consider
breaking the
leg iron, abandoning ship and taking= your chances in the wider
world.
There are a lot of nice, sane people o= ut there and I'm sure you
could
find a place that would appreciate and t= reat you fairly.
tj
-----Original Message-----
From: Joanne [m= ailto:joanne0658 <@t> comcast.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 6:31 PM
= To: Thomas Jasper
Subject: Re: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech= is suppose
to cut
per
Tom,
Thank you for your response. A= s it took me almost 10 months to
secure
a
position, I'm not likely t= o be able to jump ship.
Is there a documented average for a histotec= h's performance to be
judged
against?
Again, thank you.
Joanne
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Jasper"
To: "Joanne"
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: RE= : [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to cut
per
Joanne,
In my humble opinion and without knowing anything about= where you
work,
this expectation is ludicrous. I have a hard time belie= ving that
anyone, regardless of experience could attain the goal you've =
mentioned
(including answering phones and running instruments). There ar= e a
multitude of reasons why this is absurd. Suffice it to say, I would
= be
suspect of any work coming out of such an operation, not to
mentionthose in charge and the poor souls trying to meet this goal.
I ser= iously doubt you'll be able to have much say about things
since you
are = so new. My advice...get out and find a job working for
realistic
people.=
Good luck,
Tom Jasper
Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP) BAS
Hist= ology Supervisor
Central Oregon Regional Pathology Services
Bend, Ore= gon 97701
541/693-2677
tjasper <@t> copc.net
-----Original Message-= ----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet= -bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Joanne
Sent: Saturday, J= une 25, 2011 2:50 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [= Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose to
cut per
<= BR>i've only been working 2 months. although older, i am new as
a
histot= ech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 2011).
seems
management= is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as
cutting
goes for me. = i have until october to attain this goal. this
minute for
cutting is to = include facing, writing out slides, cutting, and
putting
tray into symph= ony stainer (not to mention getting up to answer
the
phone, fielding que= stions regarding send-out cases, and other
slight
"cutting interruptions= ). this seems an extreme, possibly
unattainable
goal. i'm up for a chall= enge at age 53, but any advice would be
SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
_______= ________________________________________
Histonet mailing list
Histon= et <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/list= info/histonet
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 21:57:01 -0400
From: V= ictoria Baker
Subject: Re: [Histonet] How many = tissues an histo tech is suppose
to
cut per
To: Thomas Jasper
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Joanne
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
Joanne -
=
I have to agree with Tom and Barry in questioning how they have
come to= this
time per block and the time frame with which they expect you to do=
this in.
I was astonished at what I read in your second e-mail in terms= of
what you
did on that one day in only six hours - do you still have a= ll ten
of your
fingers!!!!! I'm not making fun - the pressure can be inc= redible
when you
first start in this field.
I did a little intern= et searching and found some interesting
information.
'Histology workload= standards' brought up a lot of information and
publications regarding s= tandards for productivity. Rene Buesa had
several publications that had = good information and could give you
a chance
to compare your lab to what= is out there in reasonable expections
of
productivity. The ASCP website= didn't open up for me tonight
(probably out
for coffee), and I didn't g= o to NSH website which has other
links. Use the
internet to give yoursel= f some information and then approach
things from
there.
Hope this= helps you some. I'm old school, learn the techniques
first, the
speed w= ill fall into place and quality won't be at risk.
Vikki
<= BR>
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Thomas Jasper wro= te:
> Joanne,
>
> In my humble opinion and without kn= owing anything about where
you work,
> this expectation is ludicrous.= I have a hard time believing that
> anyone, regardless of experience= could attain the goal you've
mentioned
> (including answering phones= and running instruments). There are
a
> multitude of reasons why thi= s is absurd. Suffice it to say, I
would be
> suspect of any work comi= ng out of such an operation, not to
mention
> those in charge and the= poor souls trying to meet this goal.
>
> I seriously doubt you= 'll be able to have much say about things
since you
> are so new. My = advice...get out and find a job working for
realistic
> people.
&g= t;
> Good luck,
> Tom Jasper
>
> Thomas Jasper HT (= ASCP) BAS
> Histology Supervisor
> Central Oregon Regional Path= ology Services
> Bend, Oregon 97701
> 541/693-2677
> tjas= per <@t> copc.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histo= net-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists= .utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of
Joanne
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2= 011 2:50 PM
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: = [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to cut per
>
= >
>
> i've only been working 2 months. although older, i am = new as a
> histotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 201= 1).
seems
> management is setting a goal of a block per minute as far= as
cutting
> goes for me. i have until october to attain this goal. = this
minute for
> cutting is to include facing, writing out slides, c= utting, and
putting
> tray into symphony stainer (not to mention gett= ing up to answer
the
> phone, fielding questions regarding send-out c= ases, and other
slight
> "cutting interruptions). this seems an extre= me, possibly
unattainable
> goal. i'm up for a challenge at age 53, b= ut any advice would be
> SWONDERFUL!!!! :)
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:32:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: David = Kemler
Subject: Re: [Histonet] AL state meeting?To: Fellow HistoNetters
Message-ID= :
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Hi Amber -
I wa= s just doing some show prep for my show tomorrow night and
checked my notes= .
I know I didn't mention any for AL so far this year and I don't
have = anything
for them in the near future. I always mention the state meetin= gs.
Yours,
Dave
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To: histonet@= lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Thu, June 23, 2011 4:36:54 PM
Subject:= [Histonet] AL state meeting?
Does anyone know if there's an AL = state meeting this year?
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:= 14:07 -0600
From: WILLIAM DESALVO
Subject:= RE: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to
cut per
= To: , histonet
Message-ID:
Content-= Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
I understand your frust= ration and think that the lab you work at,
or any lab, that uses production= standards MUST minimally explain
how the standard is set and provide you a= training and competency
plan/schedule to attain the standard. If that has = not been
provided, I suggest you request a conversation with your Human Res=
ources representative and/or the Lab Manager. You must have a clear
underst= anding of the expectations set for you. That said, I do
not understand why = any lab would set the standard at microtomy by
number of blocks cut, blocks= should be used when setting the
embedding task standard. I believe the cor= rect unit of measure is
the slide. My experience in the Histology lab is th= at every block
can be different (some GI or Prostate labs are an exception)= and
even if they are not, the number of slides produced is a more
accurate= unit to count. My MAJOR concern is setting a production
standard without c= oupling it with a QUALITY standard. Production
standards mean nothing if
the highest quality cannot be attained and maintained throughout
the lengt= h of task performance. The development of Production and
Quality Standards = should be a reflection of the entire group of
trained and competent employe= es performing the task. This
includes ALL employees, new hire to highest le= vel of competency.
I also think it a mistake to set task Standards at a max= imum
level. Task standards should set as a minimum expectation level
with e= ncouragement and reward to perform above standard. The goal
of developing P= roduction/Quality Standards must always be
employee improvement and reducti= on in defects/errors which will
always lead to improved patient care.
<= BR>William DeSalvo, B.S., HTL(ASCP)
> From: joanne0658 <@t> comcast.ne= t
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2= 011 19:07:07 -0400
> Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo te= ch is suppose
to cut per
>
> i am quite serious in my presenta= tion and request for advice. i
too thought this goal was/is ridiculous to e= xpect/ask for from
someone so new and to attain in 6 months or less. last m= onday i
embedded 214 blocks and cut 148 between 5am and 10:30am (we had
alm= ost 600 cassettes to share among 3 people) . . . .for someone
so very new i= thought this pretty good . . . please note: most
days aren't as hectic. :)= what is an average though for
blocks/minute? what is meant by set sum per = block? <---keeping in
mind i am new to this field.
>
>
= >
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:31:03 -040= 0
From: "histotech <@t> imagesbyhopper.com"
Subject: Re: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to
cu= t per
To: Victoria Baker
Cc: "histonet <@t> lists= .utsouthwestern.edu"
, Joanne
Message-ID: <82CEFE68-52CA-40D1-94A7-77012EAFE3E7 <@t> i=
magesbyhopper.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii
To ensure that I am understood correctly: I agree that the
expectations f= or Joanne are unreasonable and unfair.
I have read here some replies= that more acurately explain what I
thought better than *I* did!
- = Speed (while maintaining quality) will come over time. One
*must* have qual= ity or speed is useless.
- monitoring the slide output can be utilized a= s a tool towards
showing positive progress. This could simply be cutting on= e more
block/slide per day. There will come a time when one more just
canno= t reasonably be done, but at least striving towards it gives
something to s= hoot for. I recall a conversation I had with a
coworker some years ago with= regards to embedding: (her) you
should be able to improve by one block per= day. (me) Really? At
that rate we will only need one person, as they will = be able to
do it all!
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 25, 2011, at= 9:57 PM, Victoria Baker wrote:
> Joanne = -
>
> I have to agree with Tom and Barry in questioning how th= ey have
come to this
> time per block and the time frame with which t= hey expect you to
do this in.
> I was astonished at what I read in yo= ur second e-mail in terms
of what you
> did on that one day in only s= ix hours - do you still have all
ten of your
> fingers!!!!! I'm not m= aking fun - the pressure can be
incredible when you
> first start in = this field.
>
> I did a little internet searching and found so= me interesting
information.
> 'Histology workload standards' brought = up a lot of information
and
> publications regarding standards for pr= oductivity. Rene Buesa
had
> several publications that had good infor= mation and could give
you a chance
> to compare your lab to what is o= ut there in reasonable
expections of
> productivity. The ASCP website= didn't open up for me tonight
(probably out
> for coffee), and I did= n't go to NSH website which has other
links. Use the
> internet to gi= ve yourself some information and then approach
things from
> there.>
> Hope this helps you some. I'm old school, learn the techniq= ues
first, the
> speed will fall into place and quality won't be at r= isk.
>
> Vikki
>
>
>
>
> On = Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Thomas Jasper wrote:
>= ;
>> Joanne,
>>
>> In my humble opinion and wi= thout knowing anything about where
you work,
>> this expectation i= s ludicrous. I have a hard time believing
that
>> anyone, regardle= ss of experience could attain the goal you've
mentioned
>> (includ= ing answering phones and running instruments). There
are a
>> mult= itude of reasons why this is absurd. Suffice it to say, I
would be
>&= gt; suspect of any work coming out of such an operation, not to
mention
= >> those in charge and the poor souls trying to meet this goal.
&g= t;>
>> I seriously doubt you'll be able to have much say about= things
since you
>> are so new. My advice...get out and find a jo= b working for
realistic
>> people.
>>
>> Good l= uck,
>> Tom Jasper
>>
>> Thomas Jasper HT (ASCP= ) BAS
>> Histology Supervisor
>> Central Oregon Regional = Pathology Services
>> Bend, Oregon 97701
>> 541/693-2677<= BR>>> tjasper <@t> copc.net
>>
>> -----Original Message= -----
>> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>&g= t; [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On
Behalf Of Joanne>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:50 PM
>> To: histonet <@t> l= ists.utsouthwestern.edu
>> Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues an= histo tech is suppose
to cut per
>>
>>
>>
>> i've only been working 2 months. although older, i am new as a
>> histotech (graduated in may 2010, found a job in april 2011).
see= ms
>> management is setting a goal of a block per minute as far as=
cutting
>> goes for me. i have until october to attain this goal.= this
minute for
>> cutting is to include facing, writing out slid= es, cutting, and
putting
>> tray into symphony stainer (not to men= tion getting up to
answer the
>> phone, fielding questions regardi= ng send-out cases, and other
slight
>> "cutting interruptions). th= is seems an extreme, possibly
unattainable
>> goal. i'm up for a c= hallenge at age 53, but any advice would
be
>> SWONDERFUL!!!! :)>>
>> _______________________________________________
= >> Histonet mailing list
>> Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.ed= u
>> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet
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>>
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Message: 1= 5
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:19:17 -0500
From: "Horn, Hazel V"
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Leica Bond for IHCs
To: "'S= heila Adey'" ,
"histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Sheila Adey
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:01 AM
To: hist= onet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Leica Bond for IHCs
Hello netters:
Looking for opinions on the Leica Bond immuno st= ainer please.
Thanks.
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:= 22:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa
Subject: Re:= [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is suppose
to
cut per
To: = histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Joanne
Messa= ge-ID: <110225.86399.qm <@t> web65710.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Content-Type:= text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1
Embedding =3D 60 blocks/hour; cutt= ing =3D 24 blocks/hour. These
are averages and many HTs embed/cut far more&= nbsp;or far
less.There are no "beginner's standards".
Ren=C3=A9 J.
--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Joanne wrote:
Fro= m: Joanne
Subject: [Histonet] How many tissues = an histo tech is suppose to
cut per
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.ed= u
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 7:07 PM
i am quite serious i= n my presentation and request for advice. i
too thought this goal was= /is ridiculous to expect/ask for from
someone so new and to attain in 6 mon= ths or less. last monday i
embedded 214 blocks and cut 148 between 5a= m and 10:30am (we had
almost 600 cassettes to share among 3 people) . . . .= for someone
so very new i thought this pretty good . . . please note: most =
days aren't as hectic. :) what is an average though for blocks/=
minute? what is meant by set sum per block? <---keeping in mind i
= am new to this field.
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 07:42= :59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rene J Buesa
Subject: Fw: R= e: [Histonet] How many tissues an histo tech is
suppose
to cut per
To= : histonet-request <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu,
histonet <@t> lists.utsouthweste= rn.edu
Message-ID:
<643218.30016.qm <@t> web65705.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1
---
=
Joanne:
Read the attachment so you can have an idea = about productivity
ranges and averages in different tasks in the lab.
If= you embedded 214 blocks and cut 148 in 5.5 hours, using the
averages= I provided, embedding should have taken 3.5 hours and
cutting 6.2 hours wh= ich means you worked 1.76 times FASTER than
the expected average.
Ren=C3= =A9 J.
--- On Sat, 6/25/11, Joanne wrote:
From: Joanne
Subject: [Histonet] How m= any tissues an histo tech is suppose to
cut per
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsou= thwestern.edu
Date: Saturday, June 25, 2011, 7:07 PM
i am qui= te serious in my presentation and request for advice. i
too thought t= his goal was/is ridiculous to expect/ask for from
someone so new and to att= ain in 6 months or less. last monday i
embedded 214 blocks and cut 14= 8 between 5am and 10:30am (we had
almost 600 cassettes to share among 3 peo= ple) . . . .for someone
so very new i thought this pretty good . . . please= note: most
days aren't as hectic. :) what is an average though= for
blocks/minute? what is meant by set sum per block? <---keepin= g
in mind i am new to this field.
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 26 Ju= n 2011 12:38:28 -0400
From: Denise Mattingly
Subject: [Histonet] Sakura auto TEC and the Leica cassette printer
To: = histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-885= 9-1
Any out there using an auto TEC embedder and the Leica cassette =
Printer .
We are having trouble with the paraform cassettes tumbling= out of
the shoot
and getting hung up .
Sakura wont help because = its a Leica printer and Leica wont help
because its
a Sakura cassette
Anyone have any suggestions?? Other than have someone flick the
casset= te so
it fall down the shoot properly ?
Any help or suggestions g= reatly appreciated
Denise Mattingly
Riverside Hospital
Columbu= s OH.
614-566-5679
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