[Histonet] CMV IHC
McCabe, Sara J.
SJMccabe <@t> drmc.org
Fri Aug 26 13:48:30 CDT 2011
Happy Friday Histonetters!
Anyone performing CMV by IHC? If so what are you using for a protocol? We ordered CMV from Cell Marque but they give no suggestions for a protocol. We are using the Leica Bond for our IHCs. Any input is greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Sara McCabe, HT (ASCP)
DuBois Regional Medical Center
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1. Embedding Center Questions (Tim Wheelock)
2. Embedding competency and med techs running a Histo lab
(D'Attilio, Shelley)
3. RE: AMPHYL (Sebree Linda A)
4. RE: Embedding Center Questions (Rathborne, Toni)
5. Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective (Cheryl)
6. RE: heavy duty microtome (Jack Ratliff)
7. RE: AMPHYL (McMahon, Loralee A)
8. AUTO: Gina Rodriguez is out of the office. (returning
09/06/2011) (Gina.Rodriguez <@t> leica-microsystems.com)
9. OT: Hurricane Irene (Pam Barker)
10. RE: AMPHYL (Shirley A. Powell)
11. Re: Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective (Jill Cox)
12. Re: Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective (Emily Sours)
13. Re: Embedding process etc. (Bob Richmond)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:54:27 -0400
From: Tim Wheelock <twheelock <@t> mclean.harvard.edu>
Subject: [Histonet] Embedding Center Questions
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Hi All:
My 23 year old Shandon Embedding Center may be ready to give up the ghost.
It has had two repairs of the coolant system for the freezing plate over
the last year.
Now a thermo-resistor has burnt out, so that the wax reservoir with no
long melt the wax.
Does anyone know of a company or companies that lease/rent histology
equipment?
Are there companies who sell used equipment?
Also, what do people recommend as far as a new embedding center, in case
we can afford it?
I am in the Boston area.
In the meantime, maybe I can jury-rig something, since it is only the
wax reservoir that is down.
The cassette holding tank, hot plate, and freezing plate are OK for the
moment.
Maybe I can melt a few jars of wax, and use a transfer pipet to fill the
molds?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
Tim Wheelock
Assistant Director, Neuropathology
Instructor In Neuroanatomy
Harvard Brain Tissue Resource Center
203 Mailman Research Center
McLean Hospital
Belmont MA 02478
Phone: 617-855-3592
Fax: 617-855-3199
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:57:35 -0500
From: "D'Attilio, Shelley" <SDattili <@t> stormontvail.org>
Subject: [Histonet] Embedding competency and med techs running a Histo
lab
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Hi all,
Thanks so much for the advice I received following my request for help on our embedding competency improvement project. I enjoyed the lively discussion that followed about non-histotechs managing a Histology lab and I appreciated all the kind comments and words of encouragement both on and off the listserv board.
Regards,
Shelley D'Attilio MT(ASCP)
Manager, Chemistry, Cytology and Histology
Dept. of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:02:24 -0500
From: "Sebree Linda A" <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
To: "Pam Marcum" <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>, "Rae Staskiewicz"
<raestask <@t> grics.net>
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu, Barbara Crill
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We've been getting our Lysol IC from Cardinal Health but in the past
we've had to go through Amazon.com
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
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From: Pam Marcum [mailto:mucram11 <@t> comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:39 AM
To: Rae Staskiewicz
Cc: Sebree Linda A; Barbara Crill; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We can't find Lysol IC here either so any supplier would help and to
keep costs down a store would be better than a scientific supplier it
possible. Please id anyone knows let us all know as it is not easy to
find.
Pam Marcum
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From: "Rae Staskiewicz" <raestask <@t> grics.net>
To: "Sebree Linda A" <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>, "Barbara Crill"
<Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net>, histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:53:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
Linda,
Where do you get your Lysol IC?
Rae Staskiewicz
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Linda
A
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We use Lysol I. C.; haven't be able to get Amphyl for years.
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
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To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] AMPHYL
My materials management department told me that AMPHYL has been
discontinued.
Ventana recommends that we clean/decontaminate the Benchmark and the
Ultras with AMPHYL.
Has anyone else ran across this? Has AMPHYL really been discontinued?
Is there a substitute we can use.
Thanks everyone!
ANTOINETTE CRILL
ANATOMIC PATHOLOGY
EXT 5451
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:10:32 +0000
From: "Rathborne, Toni" <trathborne <@t> somerset-healthcare.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Embedding Center Questions
To: "'Tim Wheelock'" <twheelock <@t> mclean.harvard.edu>,
"histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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A couple of places that come to mind are Belair (800-783-9424), Medical Equipment Source (www.medequipsource.com), and Mayflower (800-287-9801). I know that they sell used equipment, you could inquire about a rental.
Good luck.
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:54 AM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Embedding Center Questions
Hi All:
My 23 year old Shandon Embedding Center may be ready to give up the ghost.
It has had two repairs of the coolant system for the freezing plate over the last year.
Now a thermo-resistor has burnt out, so that the wax reservoir with no long melt the wax.
Does anyone know of a company or companies that lease/rent histology equipment?
Are there companies who sell used equipment?
Also, what do people recommend as far as a new embedding center, in case we can afford it?
I am in the Boston area.
In the meantime, maybe I can jury-rig something, since it is only the wax reservoir that is down.
The cassette holding tank, hot plate, and freezing plate are OK for the moment.
Maybe I can melt a few jars of wax, and use a transfer pipet to fill the molds?
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
Tim Wheelock
Assistant Director, Neuropathology
Instructor In Neuroanatomy
Harvard Brain Tissue Resource Center
203 Mailman Research Center
McLean Hospital
Belmont MA 02478
Phone: 617-855-3592
Fax: 617-855-3199
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:17:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cheryl <tkngflght <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Hi Jill-- Congrats on the job!
?
The MSDS in paper vs. eCopy?copy will come down to the opinion of your inspector.? Like Wil says, he's passed before...and I've passed before but only because we had both eCopies and hard copies.? Most of the larger for-profit and major health system administrations?require both by SOP regardless, for liability reasons usually but please read on!
?
Better yet, think of the practical uses and real-world applications of?this?rather than the 'do it because I have to' ones:
?
If you or one of yours gets splashed with something--how do you want the next response to go?? If you only have eCopies and the power is down, or you?are having computer issues, or the PC is slow, or?the printer on the network isn't responding, then what? If it's your eyes or your skin that's about to be irreversably burnt, wouldn't you want that information available in a TOTALLY reliable manner and a copy available to?grab,?follow?AND send to the emergency room with you--RIGHT NOW?? Then add to it the liability for your company should this be the case...and we all know when you most need your PC to work is when it doesn't.
?
If I'm having trouble making a decision often exaggerating the potential circumstances makes the answer far easier to come to.
?
If I am working in a lab I want hard copies alphabetized by both the mfc. chemical name and the common name we use for it in the lab with an index?with the binders (Print the covers black on yellow paper and insert these in clear view binders)?on the benches in the space where we work.? Not on a computer or off in the transcription area.? It may not be required by your inspector or by your facility, but is that really why we have these in our labs in the first place--because we're required to do so??
?
My four cents....
?
Cheryl
?
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Full Staff Inc - Staffing the AP Lab one GREAT tech at a time.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:24:46 -0400
From: Jack Ratliff <ratliffjack <@t> hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] heavy duty microtome
To: <jbar <@t> ana.au.dk>, Histonet <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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I know of two possible options for exactly what you seek. Please contact me directly so that we may point you in the right direction and discuss with you the details.
Best Regards,
Jack
PS I have heard a rumor that these units will no longer be for sale by Leica and no replacements will be available in the future. Additionally, I very seriously doubt that they have a demo unit for sale as they typically manufacture these units upon approved purchase order.
Jack L Ratliff
Senior Histologist, BioMimetic Therapeutics, Inc.
Chair, Hard Tissue Committee - National Society for Histotechnology
> From: JBAR <@t> ANA.AU.DK
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:08:29 +0200
> Subject: [Histonet] heavy duty microtome
>
> Does anyone have either a used Leica Polycut E or SM 2500 for sale.
> For the present we are using a very old (50 years) Reichert-Jung heavy duty microtome and looking for a replacement.
>
> If you can help us please contact:
>
> Jette Barlach
> Research unit for Rheumatology an Bone biology
> Dept. of Rheumatology
> University hospital of Aarhus
> N?rrebrogade 44
> 8000 Aarhus C
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:33:18 -0400
From: "McMahon, Loralee A" <Loralee_Mcmahon <@t> URMC.Rochester.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
To: Pam Marcum <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>, Rae Staskiewicz
<raestask <@t> grics.net>
Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, Sebree Linda A
<LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>, Barbara Crill <Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net>
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http://www.labsafety.com/lysol-ic-quaternary-cleaner-disinfectant_24530427/
Loralee McMahon, HTL (ASCP)
Immunohistochemistry Supervisor
Strong Memorial Hospital
Department of Surgical Pathology
(585) 275-7210
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To: Rae Staskiewicz
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Subject: Re: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We can't find Lysol IC here either so any supplier would help and to keep costs down a store would be better than a scientific supplier it possible. Please id anyone knows let us all know as it is not easy to find.
Pam Marcum
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From: "Rae Staskiewicz" <raestask <@t> grics.net>
To: "Sebree Linda A" <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>, "Barbara Crill" <Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net>, histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:53:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
Linda,
Where do you get your Lysol IC?
Rae Staskiewicz
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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sebree Linda
A
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We use Lysol I. C.; haven't be able to get Amphyl for years.
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:56 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] AMPHYL
My materials management department told me that AMPHYL has been
discontinued.
Ventana recommends that we clean/decontaminate the Benchmark and the
Ultras with AMPHYL.
Has anyone else ran across this? Has AMPHYL really been discontinued?
Is there a substitute we can use.
Thanks everyone!
ANTOINETTE CRILL
ANATOMIC PATHOLOGY
EXT 5451
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Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:00:52 -0500
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:07:21 -0400
From: "Pam Barker" <relia1 <@t> earthlink.net>
Subject: [Histonet] OT: Hurricane Irene
To: "'Histonet'" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Hi Histonetters!
Are you in the projected path of Irene? I'm a long time florida
resident who has weathered hurricanes&false alarms in both central
Florida&the panhandle. It's not the hurricane it's the aftermath... No
power which means no gasoline no atms no A.C. no lights, no water. At
least fill your car with gas have cash on hand&fill your bathtub with
water That way you are prepared and have not spent alot of money on
stuff you wouldn't use on the OFF chance that it doesn't affect you. Be
Safe!!
Thank You!
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:07:19 -0400
From: "Shirley A. Powell" <POWELL_SA <@t> mercer.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
To: Pam Marcum <mucram11 <@t> comcast.net>, Rae Staskiewicz
<raestask <@t> grics.net>
Cc: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu"
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Google Lysol IC and you will get plenty of suppliers.
sp
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 9:39 AM
To: Rae Staskiewicz
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Barbara Crill; Sebree Linda A
Subject: Re: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We can't find Lysol IC here either so any supplier would help and to keep costs down a store would be better than a scientific supplier it possible.?? Please id anyone knows let us all know as it is not easy to find.
Pam Marcum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rae Staskiewicz" <raestask <@t> grics.net>
To: "Sebree Linda A" <LSebree <@t> uwhealth.org>, "Barbara Crill" <Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net>, histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:53:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
Linda,
Where do you get your Lysol IC?
Rae Staskiewicz
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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Sebree Linda
A
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net; histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] AMPHYL
We use Lysol I. C.; haven't be able to get Amphyl for years.
Linda A. Sebree
University of Wisconsin Hospital & Clinics
IHC/ISH Laboratory
DB1-223 VAH
600 Highland Ave.
Madison, WI 53792
(608)265-6596
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Barbara.Crill <@t> LPNT.net
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:56 PM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] AMPHYL
My materials management department told me that AMPHYL has been
discontinued.
Ventana recommends that we clean/decontaminate the Benchmark and the
Ultras with AMPHYL.
Has anyone else ran across this? ??Has AMPHYL really been discontinued?
Is there a substitute we can use.
Thanks everyone!
ANTOINETTE CRILL
ANATOMIC PATHOLOGY
EXT 5451
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:21:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jill Cox <jcox90 <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective
To: Cheryl <tkngflght <@t> yahoo.com>, "Histonet <@t> Lists. Edu"
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Hi Cheryl,
Thanks! I do have hard copies here, my main question was about the binder color. I ended up ordering a MSDS binder from LSS yesterday. I just wanted all manuals to match, lol. I haven't had hard copy in years, everywhere I have been has only had online and saved to desktop. We did pass all inspections with online only. It's great to hear from you!
Jill Cox, HT ASCP
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From: Cheryl <tkngflght <@t> yahoo.com>
To: "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 7:17 AM
Subject: [Histonet] Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective
Hi Jill-- Congrats on the job!
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The MSDS in paper vs. eCopy?copy will come down to the opinion of your inspector.? Like Wil says, he's passed before...and I've passed before but only because we had both eCopies and hard copies.? Most of the larger for-profit and major health system administrations?require both by SOP regardless, for liability reasons usually but please read on!
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Better yet, think of the practical uses and real-world applications of?this?rather than the 'do it because I have to' ones:
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If you or one of yours gets splashed with something--how do you want the next response to go?? If you only have eCopies and the power is down, or you?are having computer issues, or the PC is slow, or?the printer on the network isn't responding, then what? If it's your eyes or your skin that's about to be irreversably burnt, wouldn't you want that information available in a TOTALLY reliable manner and a copy available to?grab,?follow?AND send to the emergency room with you--RIGHT NOW?? Then add to it the liability for your company should this be the case...and we all know when you most need your PC to work is when it doesn't.
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If I'm having trouble making a decision often exaggerating the potential circumstances makes the answer far easier to come to.
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If I am working in a lab I want hard copies alphabetized by both the mfc. chemical name and the common name we use for it in the lab with an index?with the binders (Print the covers black on yellow paper and insert these in clear view binders)?on the benches in the space where we work.? Not on a computer or off in the transcription area.? It may not be required by your inspector or by your facility, but is that really why we have these in our labs in the first place--because we're required to do so??
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My four cents....
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Cheryl
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:29:20 -0400
From: Emily Sours <talulahgosh <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Jill's MSDS question: a tech's perspective
To: Cheryl <tkngflght <@t> yahoo.com>, histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I would respond to this by saying, if I were working with something that
dangerous, I would know ahead of time what to do with it. I'm not going to
spend any amount of time looking up an MSDS if something is on me RIGHT NOW,
digital or not. Which is why I think it makes sense to have digital copies,
because you're going to know how to handle hazardous stuff and digital
copies save space and time.
Emily
A great book should leave you with many experiences, and slightly exhausted.
You should live several lives while reading it.
-William Styron
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Cheryl <tkngflght <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Jill-- Congrats on the job!
>
> The MSDS in paper vs. eCopy copy will come down to the opinion of your
> inspector. Like Wil says, he's passed before...and I've passed before but
> only because we had both eCopies and hard copies. Most of the larger
> for-profit and major health system administrations require both by SOP
> regardless, for liability reasons usually but please read on!
>
> Better yet, think of the practical uses and real-world applications
> of this rather than the 'do it because I have to' ones:
>
> If you or one of yours gets splashed with something--how do you want the
> next response to go? If you only have eCopies and the power is down, or
> you are having computer issues, or the PC is slow, or the printer on the
> network isn't responding, then what? If it's your eyes or your skin that's
> about to be irreversably burnt, wouldn't you want that information available
> in a TOTALLY reliable manner and a copy available to grab, follow AND send
> to the emergency room with you--RIGHT NOW? Then add to it the liability for
> your company should this be the case...and we all know when you most need
> your PC to work is when it doesn't.
>
> If I'm having trouble making a decision often exaggerating the potential
> circumstances makes the answer far easier to come to.
>
> If I am working in a lab I want hard copies alphabetized by both the mfc.
> chemical name and the common name we use for it in the lab with an
> index with the binders (Print the covers black on yellow paper and insert
> these in clear view binders) on the benches in the space where we work. Not
> on a computer or off in the transcription area. It may not be required by
> your inspector or by your facility, but is that really why we have these in
> our labs in the first place--because we're required to do so?
>
> My four cents....
>
> Cheryl
>
> Cheryl Kerry, HT(ASCP)
> Full Staff Inc - Staffing the AP Lab one GREAT tech at a time.
> 281.852.9457
> admin <@t> fullstaff.org
> _______________________________________________
> Histonet mailing list
> Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:36:15 -0400
From: Bob Richmond <rsrichmond <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Embedding process etc.
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Bill O'Donnell observes:
>>I once worked for a very demanding pathologist and because of his expectations, the whole crew put out near perfection. Pathologists that are "OK" with what they get, so long as they can make a diagnosis, are a huge part of that problem.<<
I very much agree, though I've often been guilty as charged. Edwards
Deming - whom of course American MBA's learn to ridicule - was very
much concerned with constant feedback, and constant attention to
fixing little problems before they turn into big problems.
The histotechnologist who never looks at a slide and the pathologist
who is afraid to complain about unsatisfactory work are two sides of
the same problem.
This month's Journal of Histotechnology has an article about quality
assurance of GI biopsies that everyone concerned with this issue
should read. I'll try to get review of it onto Histonet.
Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN
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