[Histonet] formalin storage

[Emily Sours]

I have to ask--what was the point of chain mail gloves?!

Emily

"One of the defining characteristics of modern surgery was that patients
ought to survive it."
--Peter Stanley, For Fear of Pain: British Surgery, 1790-1850


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Jackie M O'Connor <
Jackie.O'Connor <@t> abbott.com <Jackie.O%27Connor <@t> abbott.com>> wrote:

> I once had my safety officer insist I wear chain maille gloves while
> cutting frozen sections.  They didn' t care about all the reasons I gave
> them why I shouldn't - like it would be impossible to use the machine
> while wearing them, and the patient would have to lie on the operating
> table longer waiting to find out if their entire colon was going to be
> removed.
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> "Jean Warren" <jwarren23 <@t> cinci.rr.com>
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> No, it is ridiculous. Safety people tried to argue this with us years ago.
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> One of our pathologists told them, "How can something that is almost 90%
> water be a combustion hazard?"
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Riesen, Rebecca" <Rebecca.Riesen <@t> nchmd.org>
> To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:15 AM
> Subject: [Histonet] formalin storage
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> We have been directed by our Safety Officer to store all formalin (37%
> and 10% NBF) in a flammable storage room, cabinet or container.  Yes,
> 37% Formalin we do store in this manner, but I have never heard of this
> requirement for 10%NBF.  I looked on line to many MSDS sheets from
> different vendors and found only one that stated such storage
> requirements for 10% NBF.  During this search I found all but one
> company states that formalin is not flammable.  I brought this to the
> Safety Officer.  He agrees that it is not "flammable" but that it IS
> "combustible".  Combustible=Flash point of 100F to 200F.  Of the dozen
> sites I visited I found the following data concerning the Flash Point of
> 10% NBF: from "NA / >200F / 122F to 185F".  The NFPA (National Fire
> Protection Agency) guideline of no more than 1 gallon in a flammable
> storage container and 1 gallon outside of a safety cabinet/container per
> 100 square feet is already quite limiting.  Using this guideline, we
> have calculated acceptable volumes of the known flammables (Alcohols and
> Xylenes) we can store.  Adding 10% NBF to the equation will have us
> traveling to our "bulk" storage area constantly.  Does anyone out there
> store 10%NBF in flammable cans/cabinets?
> Riesen, Rebecca
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