[Histonet] Ventana Slide Labels

Thu Sep 10 12:28:43 CDT 2009

Ahh, that's what I wanted to hear.  Thank you very much.  

I would also like to thank everyone else who has responded.  

In summary, at least a couple of people have found out how to print their
LIS barcodes on the Ventana label.  This is done via an interface and the
printer is the printer connected to the Ventana PC.

While this is a very good improvement, and I compliment Jesus Ellin on his
work down in Yuma (got to give credit to those who have earned it), I yearn
for the time when a generic slide label and barcode can be read by the
Ventana gear.  When that happens, we can label the slides like all the other
slides - one at a time, while the material is being cut.

Again, thank you all very much.

Michael Mihalik

 <http://www.pathview.com/> PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 |
800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

From: Mark Tarango [mailto:marktarango <@t> gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Michael Mihalik
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana Slide Labels

The tech checks the worklist in powerpath for any orders.  The worklist is
then printed.  He/she goes to the Ventana instrument to print the labels
that have transferred over through the interface.  Then they take the labels
to the control slide area and grab their pre-cut control slides and put the
labels on the slides.  Then they go over to the waterbath and cut the
orders.

Since we only have two location where Ventana labels can be printed, the
tech has to get up and to go print them.  At the cutting station there is
only a slide label printer for LIS/Powerpath labels.

Mark Tarango

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Michael Mihalik <mike <@t> pathview.com> wrote:

So can you explain your layout a little bit, please?  At the microtome, do
you have a Ventana slide label printer and an LIS slide labeler?

Put it another way:  You received the request for an IHC.  Now, what
happens?... with emphasis on the labeling?

Thank you again for your time.

Michael Mihalik

 <http://www.pathview.com/> PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 |
800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

From: Mark Tarango [mailto:marktarango <@t> gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:22 AM 

To: Michael Mihalik
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana Slide Labels

Oh yah, we have the case number on there.  Using these labels, we can put
the label on before the section is cut and just use that single label for
everything.  

Aside from doing the same thing (getting labels with both barcodes), I can't
think of a way around writing on the slides or double labeling.  

Mark Tarango

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Michael Mihalik <mike <@t> pathview.com> wrote:

Yeap, news travels fast.  I had heard of this as well.

For us and our system design, however, the issue is labeling the slide
correctly AT THE TIME THE SLIDE IS CUT.  I hate that you have to either
write patient information on the slide or perform some sort of double
labeling.

BTW, I assume you have the case # on this slide somewhere, right?

Michael Mihalik

 <http://www.pathview.com/> PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 |
800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

From: Mark Tarango [mailto:marktarango <@t> gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:37 PM 

To: Michael Mihalik
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana Slide Labels

One of our IT guys heard about it at a conference, that someone had got the
Ventana system to print powerpath barcodes on the Ventana.  I think it was
someone out in Yuma, AZ name Chuy who first did this.

The IT guys knew that the interface was transferring the barcode
information, but not doing anything with it.  After trying for months to
talk with someone at Ventana who knew something about this, we finally found
him.  He then helped our IT dept get it working.

The barcode prints right below the normal Ventana barcode.  We no longer
have the patient name on the slide and concluded that the barcode itself can
serve as the second identifier of the specimen.

Mark Tarango HT(ASCP)QIHC

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Michael Mihalik <mike <@t> pathview.com> wrote:

Ventana's ebar printer - tell me a little about that, please.. 

I don't think I'm going to like what I hear, but let me shut up and listen
for a little bit.

Michael Mihalik

 <http://www.pathview.com/> PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 |
800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

From: Mark Tarango [mailto:marktarango <@t> gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:25 PM
To: Michael Mihalik
Cc: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Ventana Slide Labels

We currently put the LIS label on the back of the slide.  We very recently
got Ventana to help us create a new label template that has the Ventana
barcode and our 2D LIS label all printed on Ventana's Ebar printer.  

We will start using the new labels in a few weeks.  Ventana doesn't support
the new labels but they did help our IT people figure out how to do it.

Mark Tarango

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Michael Mihalik <mike <@t> pathview.com> wrote:

I need some help from those of you who work with Ventana stainers.

The Ventana equipment requires the use of Ventana slide labels.  You can't
just stick your LIS slide label on the slide and expect the Ventana
equipment to read the slide barcode and perform the required stain (yes, I
am assuming an interface is in place).  On the other hand, have any of you
either:

1.  placed the LIS slide label on the back side of the slide, or
2.  Overlapped the LIS slide label with the Ventana slide label such that
you can still read both the LIS and the Ventana barcodes.

I have heard conflicting answers from multiple Ventana representatives as to
whether one or both of the aforementioned mechanisms work.

I appreciate your time.

Michael Mihalik
PathView Systems | cell: 214.733.7688 | 800.798.3540 | fax: 952.241.7369

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