[Histonet] Overseas graduates

Tue Feb 17 10:31:40 CST 2009

In this case Beatrice, the problem was not with the mechanism but with the fact that the accrediting agency did not recognize the technical school you went to because they do not recognize technical schools as sources of higher education (as they are not) nor they recognize a foreign technical degree as equivalent to a national technical degree.
It seems that you were able to get your bachelor equivalence and using it you got your ASCP certification.
What I wrote referred to higher education equivalencies used as a certification route in this country and, as such, what I wrote is correct. 
René J.

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Debrosse-Serra, Beatrice <Beatrice.Debrosse-Serra <@t> pfizer.com> wrote:

From: Debrosse-Serra, Beatrice <Beatrice.Debrosse-Serra <@t> pfizer.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Overseas graduates
To: rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com, "Histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>, kimtournear <@t> yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 11:18 AM

René, 

I hate to tell you, but it isn't as simple as you make it sound. The school
I went to was a technical school, which was very specific. But since it
wasn't a University, they didn't recognize my schooling and certificate
and I would have to get my bachelors all over again. However, I did get
certified here and at least have an HT and QIHC from the ASCP. So what you are
saying is not totally correct.

Beatrice DeBrosse-Serra
Pathology Scientist 
Pfizer Global Research & Development
CB4, 2150
10646 Science Center Drive
San Diego, CA 92121
Phone# 858-622-5986
Fax# 858-678-8290

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:09 AM
To: Histonet; kimtournear <@t> yahoo.com
Subject: [Histonet] Overseas graduates 

This problem of overseas certified histotechs is simple to solve. 
The foreign graduate has to send his/her credentials and transcripts to one of
several certifying agencies in the US that will analyze the curriculum, the
competencies and will issue an "equivalence certificate" indicating
what those foreign studies correspond to any from any US high studies
institution.
Any foreign graduate with a bachelor, master or PhD in a foreign university
will be issued an equivalence as if the studies would have been completed here
and that will qualify the foreign graduate to take his/her ASCP certification
examination. It is absolutely unnecessary to study the same thing again here!
René J.

--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Kim Tournear <kimtournear <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Kim Tournear <kimtournear <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
To: "Histonet" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:53 AM

I agree with the overseas tech issue...my experience at Ventana Medical allowed
me to meet alot of well educated techs from across the ocean. What difference
does it make where the education comes from, as long as the candidate is
qualified to do the job? 

I think an ASCP certification should be obtained allowing the applicant to
use his/her credentials, and a state license (if applicable) without having
to
go back for a degree they already have. 

We knew long before 2005, that the histology world was going in new directions
and that a histotech would be required to be certified. I fear that at some
point, hospitals will not hire any non-registered techs (of any kind). 

Just my 2 cents worth....

~Kim Tournear ~HT (ASCP), QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Tucson Medical Center
Tucson, AZ

~Don't let your life end before it begins~

OU Rocks!!!!

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Bernice Frederick <b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu>
wrote:

From: Bernice Frederick <b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
To: "'Larry Woody'" <slappycraw <@t> yahoo.com>,
histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:28 AM

Agreed. Kind of devalues one's education if there are uncertified techs. I
also think that it's silly that techs from outside the US are sometimes
forced to repeat their 4 years of college when they have the knowledge and
the equivalency from wherever and can do the job better than some techs
doing it for years.
Bernice

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL 
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723

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From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Woody
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:10 AM
To: rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Steven Coakley
Subject: Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

This has been an ongoing issue for so many years in histology, I've always
wanted to see a mandatory license in the field but that always starts a
firestorm of controversy. If you have surgery, you certainly want a board
certified surgeon to do it and same with the Pathologist that looks at the
slides so wouldn't you want a certified tech doing the lab work as well?

Larry A. Woody
Seattle, Wa.

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From: Rene J Buesa <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu; Steven Coakley
<sjchtascp <@t> yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:58:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

A hospital that relies on uncertified techs to do histology work is
motivated by the pursue of costs cuts (you can call it greed!) and shows
total disregard for quality of work and patient care. They may end losing
all those savings when settling a legal case.
René J.

--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Steven Coakley <sjchtascp <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Steven Coakley <sjchtascp <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 9:55 AM

Any thoughts or experiences with my fellow HT/HTL's(ASCP).  What the big
advantage do all these facilities think there gaining by going with
unregistered
techs, especially when theres always ongoing quality issues when theres so
many
trained certified HT looking for work?  In my area of the country I can't
believe how many Hospitals go this way.

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