[Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

Tue Feb 17 09:07:59 CST 2009

I forgot something....

The lack of programs has hurt the histology world over the years...I don't see anything wrong with OJT (after all, that's how I learned) as long as the histotechs doing the training are well qualified and can teach it properly...I think OJT should be brought back as a ROI for the exam...

However:

There is the issue with "the direction" histology has been moving in over the past 10+ years:  i.e. ISH, FISH, SISH, etc, etc, etc.... This is where the degree would be a benefit to a person due to the theory side of it, but at the same time it still can be taught OJT just like me  (at Ventana). 

Honestly, a degree doesn't always mean that a person will make a good tech. After all, it's only a piece of paper...it's whether or not a tech can take that degree and apply it...

Again, my 2 cents worth 

~Kim Tournear~ HT (ASCP), QIHC (ASCP)
Histology Supervisor
Tucson Medical Center
Tucson, AZ 

~Don't let your life end before it begins~

OU Rocks!!!!

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Bernice Frederick <b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu> wrote:

From: Bernice Frederick <b-frederick <@t> northwestern.edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
To: "'Martin, Gary'" <gmartin <@t> marshallmedical.org>, histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:30 AM

So take the registry exam!!!!

Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP)
Northwestern University
Pathology Core Facility
ECOGPCO-RL 
710 N Fairbanks Court
Olson 8-421
Chicago,IL 60611
312-503-3723

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Gary
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:27 AM
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

I am one of those "unregistered" techs.  I would respectfully hope
that
we are not considered the villains here.  My situation is; we are a
small lab in a rural area that has the need for 1 1/2 Histo Techs. We
were having a very difficult time attracting a 1/2 time "qualified
tech.", and had zero backup for our one and only full time "qualified
tech." I have a good back ground in detail work in the art world and a
good amount of experience as a pathology lab assistant. So it was easy
for me to transition into the role of "unregistered tech", thereby
providing back for our over work Histo tech.  I have been trained by my
Histo tech and have completed the Freida L. Carson self instruction
course under her supervision.  We are happy with the results and our
Pathologist are pleased.  At this point (7 years into teching) there are
some things that I have been innovative on some things, and our tech
prefers me to do other things. I would love to get certified but the
changes in OTJ have made that more of a mountain than I can climb at
this time. I would like to lend voice to us who are in this situation
and say the we take our duties very serious and I really don't look at
my job as getting over on rules or quality or providing cheap labor. In
our case it has been necessity. 
Thank you 
Gary 

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Watson,
Linda
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:34 AM
To: Mary Abosso; Steven Coakley; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

I totally agree with Mary. I have often heard that histotechs are a
dying breed. That us "old timers" are not being replaced by the
younger
generation. If we want to have less uncertified histotechs then lets not
make it so difficult for individuals to pursue this wonderful career. I
still think it is very important for the exam to remain in place but
those individuals out of high school that are maybe not thinking of
attending college to obtain a bachelors degree should have the
opportunity to become a certified histologist. I know that you can still
obtain the HT but not the HTL. Correct me if I am wrong.

Linda

>-----Original Message-----
>From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-
>bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Abosso
>Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:19 AM
>To: Steven Coakley; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
>
>Many areas have to go to unregistered techs out of necessity due to the
>high vacancy rate in our field since the ASCP made changes to the
career
>path for the HT board requirements.  Many of these facilities have
>either formal or informal training and have turned out many very good,
>high quality techs.  Yes, some may be skilled at the "art" of
histology,
>but lack the understanding that is behind the science.  These often can
>embed, cut and do special stains with superior quality and happy
>pathologists.  I have seen registered techs that have all the
>intelligence that their sheepskins say, but totally lack the hands on
>skills needed to produce superior quality material for patient
>diagnosis.  While this is only my opinion, I wish that there was still
>the route for OJT as long as there is a certified tech in place for
>training.
>
>My two cents worth,
>Mary Abosso
>
>________________________________
>
>From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Steven
>Coakley
>Sent: Wed 2/11/2009 7:55 AM
>To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
>Subject: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology
>
>
>
>Any thoughts or experiences with my fellow HT/HTL's(ASCP).  What the
big
>advantage do all these facilities think there gaining by going with
>unregistered techs, especially when theres always ongoing quality
issues
>when theres so many trained certified HT looking for work?  In my area
>of the country I can't believe how many Hospitals go this way.
>
>
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