[Histonet] RE: Dako and Leica immunostainers

[Larry Woody]

Ditto what Amos related and I will add that the companies making these machines are trying to make a profit first and foremost and not necessarily trying to make things easier for us but I am a huge fan of automation when it gets me from A to B more efficiently, with great results and at a reasonable cost.

 
Larry A. Woody
Seattle, Wa.




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From: Amos Brooks <amosbrooks <@t> gmail.com>
To: sprice2003 <@t> gmail.com; "histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu" <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:06:54 PM
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Dako and Leica immunostainers

No Way!!
   Just because there are new gadgets & gizmos on the newer instruments
doesn't make them better. Versatility = Simplicity! Taking an instrument
that works GREAT off the market just because there are newer ones that are
all limited is dumb. We should follow Darwin and see the natural selection
process through. More complicated systems are often more buggy (... see M$
Vista for example). Bells & Whistles are not selling points. Consistency &
Versatility are.

Gettin off my soapbox...
Amos


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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:35:55 -0500
From: "Sally Price" <sprice2003 <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] RE: Dako and Leica immunostainers
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      jaustin1967 <@t> gmail.com, godsgalnow <@t> aol.com,
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All,
After reading this thread I just had offer my comments.  I'm not a big fan
of systems that do the dewax and AR, primarily because it costs way too much
to automate these steps.  I've never used the Bond, but I hear that you've
gotta put some plastic thingy - that probably costs too much - on top of
each slide, you gotta use their detection reagents - which probably
cost more than other companies, they charge you for empty barcoded
reagent containers, all the slides in the same tray have to use the same
detection reagents - which means that the continuous-feed feature has some
serious limits, it can't do double-stains, and they have less than 50
IVD-approved antbodies.  Can someone verify for me if all this issues are
true?  If so, why would someone want one of these stainers?  The Dako
stainer is a dinosaur and with all the newre/better ones available,
they should probably take it off the market.
Cheers,
Sally
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