[Histonet] RE: Histonet Digest, Vol 46, Issue 36

Wed Sep 19 08:54:50 CDT 2007

Folks,
I rarely post on Histonet but I read it avidly.  The off topic posts CAN be annoying.  
I've been considering something for awhile and I wonder how you all would feel about this.
I belong to a horse board called UDBB.  I log in everyday and can read topics that I care about and none that I don't.  I'm thinking Histonet ought to go that way as well.
I picture several different areas to check into. Something like H & E, routine sectioning, research oriented topics, IHC and off topics.
Something like that.
I'd be willing to host such a thing on my website www.mohsop.com.  But, I wonder if you guys would log into something like that or do you prefer the emails. 

Laurie

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:HIF1a (wael swelam)
   2. RE: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] I think I will give it an acronym
      (Kemlo Rogerson)
   3. OT threads (louise renton)
   4. RE: OT threads (Laurie Reilly)
   5. RE: OT threads (Joseph Kapler)
   6. workstation ergonomics (karenadams <@t> comcast.net)
   7. RE: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] Football and Flaming
      (Baldridge, Lee Ann)
   8. Need Your Help to Find a Cytology Supervisor (Robert Garhart)
   9. RE: Need Your Help to Find a Cytology Supervisor (Inman, Anna)
  10. What are those things called? (Douglas D Deltour)
  11. RE: Re: Lymph node fixative/enhance solutions
      (Marshall Terry Dr,	Consultant Histopathologist)
  12. Re: OT threads (koellingr <@t> comcast.net)
  13. RE: {SPAM?} [Histonet] What are those things called?
      (Douglas D Deltour)
  14. Commentary (Joe Nocito)
  15. Re: OT threads (Joe Nocito)
  16. Re: OT threads (Larry Woody)
  17. Re: Commentary (Larry Woody)
  18. RE: OTT threads (Edwards, R.E.)
  19. RE: OT threads (Joe's not dull) (Hofecker, Jennifer L)
  20. Re: Floor in a pathology laboratory (Joe Nocito)
  21. Off Topic (Judy Collins)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:48:35 +0300
From: "wael swelam" <swelam48 <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: Re:[Histonet] HIF1a
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Peace be upon you,
I tried mouse monoclonal antibody against HIF-1 a  from Chemicon
International Inc. (Temecula, CA, USA, 1:100) and It was working nicely, I
would recommend you to use Tris-EDTA for retrival.
Good luck

-- 
Wael Mohamed Swelam
BDS (Egypt), Oral Pathology MSc (Egypt), Oral Pathology PhD (Japan),
Ass. Prof. Oral Biomedical Science dept. Division of Oral Pathology,
Faculty of Dentistry, King Faisal University, Dammam,
Saudi Arabia,
P.O: 1982/3441,
http://myprofile.cos.com/wmswelam

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:53:48 +0100
From: "Kemlo Rogerson" <Kemlo.Rogerson <@t> waht.swest.nhs.uk>
Subject: RE: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] I think I will give it an acronym
To: "Dolores Townsend" <TownsendD <@t> childrensdayton.org>,	"Emily Sours"
	<talulahgosh <@t> gmail.com>, <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>,	"Douglas
	D Deltour" <doug <@t> ppspath.com>
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Football in America, you don't play it do you. Don't you play something
called Soccer? God only knows what that is? What's that game you play
where you get little diddy men and encase them in plastic with big
shoulders and they sorta run at each other, then fall down? Bit like
Rugby but for Wussies?

Kemlo Rogerson
Pathology Manager
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:22:59 +0200
From: "louise renton" <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com>
Subject: [Histonet] OT threads
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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You know a little tolerance goes a long way.

In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the
fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course.
Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.

Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when CLIA,
CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at
length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come on
guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All work
& no play makes Jack  a dull boy"

Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
* do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety
officers, CAP, JHCO, etc

Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
"There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:06:29 +1000
From: Laurie Reilly <laurie.reilly <@t> jcu.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads
To: "'louise renton'" <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com>,
	<Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Message-ID: <002f01c7fa93$fbb04c00$5255db89 <@t> health.ad.jcu.edu.au>
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Good for you ,Louise. OT, in moderation, is fine by me.

Regards,  Laurie.

Mr. Laurie REILLY
Histopathology
School of  Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
James Cook University
Townsville  Qld.  4811
Australia.

Phone 07 4781 4468

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise
renton
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:23 PM
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] OT threads

You know a little tolerance goes a long way.

In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the
fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course.
Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.

Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when CLIA,
CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at
length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come on
guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All work
& no play makes Jack  a dull boy"

Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
* do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety
officers, CAP, JHCO, etc

Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
"There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".
George Carlin
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However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:32:08 -0600
From: "Joseph Kapler" <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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I'm a Student (Mature Student) taking my courses as I work two jobs (one in
Histology), so I find Histonet as one of the best resources for information
related to my area of study.

But I am also a major NFL fan. I enjoy a discussion from time to time on my
favorite Sport, or even some of my favorite music.

As stated below, "all work makes joe a dull boy" is not only true, it also
leads to burnout and neurosis. Therefore, in MODERATION, a little off topic
discussion can go a long way to easing our daily stress. But Moderation is
the key. Keep it to a single thread. And remind people its off topic.

Maybe that would help... maybe it won't ... but that's my two cents today

Joe "DarkWolfe" Kapler

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Laurie
Reilly
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:06 AM
To: 'louise renton'; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads

Good for you ,Louise. OT, in moderation, is fine by me.

Regards,  Laurie.

Mr. Laurie REILLY
Histopathology
School of  Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
James Cook University
Townsville  Qld.  4811
Australia.

Phone 07 4781 4468

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise
renton
Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:23 PM
To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] OT threads

You know a little tolerance goes a long way.

In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the
fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course.
Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.

Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when CLIA,
CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at
length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come on
guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All work
& no play makes Jack  a dull boy"

Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
* do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety
officers, CAP, JHCO, etc

Bone Research Unit
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg
South Africa
"There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".
George Carlin
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:35:21 +0000
From: karenadams <@t> comcast.net
Subject: [Histonet] workstation ergonomics
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
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We are  remodeling our existing lab and I would like input into the pros and cons of workstation design, specifically the semi circular cutout vs and L-shaped design in addition to dimensions necessary to accommodate workstation supplies.....any and all input into things that you hate and things you love would be MUCH appreciated!!!!

--
Karen Adams 
Pathology Laboratories West 
9303 Park West Blvd 
Knoxville, TN 37923 
(865) 690-2111 FAX (865) 691-1623

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:29:10 -0400
From: "Baldridge, Lee Ann" <lhadley <@t> iupui.edu>
Subject: RE: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] Football and Flaming
To: "Patricia Adams" <alaskagirl1950 <@t> yahoo.com>,	"HistoNet"
	<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Well said Patricia. I totally agree.
Oh, Go Colts!!!
Lee Ann Baldridge
IUSM
Indpls.,IN.

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[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Patricia
Adams
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:58 PM
To: HistoNet
Subject: RE: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] Football and Flaming

I know that sometimes wading through unwanted
histonet "stuff" can be a trial.  I feel that way
when someone wants to know about some procedure I
have never heard of or will never use.  I do hit
the delete key.  Or sometimes take the time to
learn something new.
I also really enjoy the off topic histo threads,
makes me know that all these very smart Techs are
also human and would be fun to hang around with.
So please keep the humor and wit going!
Patrica
--- Larry Woody <slappycraw <@t> yahoo.com> wrote:

> Did someone from Detroit mention a party?
> Histology people never party, we are always
> business and the fact that both words are even
> mentioned in the same sentence makes me want to
> get back to work! I can't help it, my barcode
> is not scanning properly.
> 
> Douglas D Deltour <doug <@t> ppspath.com> wrote:  
> Sorry Nancy. 
> 
> I understand that football is non-existent in
> Detroit. :) 
> 
> We will get back to the Histology Stuff. 
> 
> Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
> Histology Manager
> Professional Pathology Services, PC
> One Science Court
> Suite 200
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> Office (803)252-1913
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>
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> On Behalf Of Nancy Lemke
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:57 PM
> To: Thomas Pier;
> histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu;
> sbreeden <@t> nmda.nmsu.edu
> Subject: {SPAM?} Re: [Histonet] Football and
> Flaming
> 
> Sorry to be a party pooper but is it possible
> to eliminate the non histology
> threads from the general list and move that
> type of communication to direct
> emails between the interested parties? It feels
> like a low-level hijacking
> when Histonet becomes engulfed in one of these
> threads.
> Thanks
> 
> Nancy Lemke
> Research Coordinator
> Hermelin Brain Tumor Center
> Henry Ford Hospital
> Detroit
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Thomas Pier" tp2 <@t> medicine.wisc.edu
> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:44:03 -0400
> To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] Football and Flaming
> 
> > Sall,
> > Ummm, where do I begin. "America's Team"
> still can't match the 12 time >
> world champ Packers. That's right. 12. 12 is
> more than anyone else has. >
> Roger Staubach is no Bart Starr and Troy Aikman
> is no Brett Favre. I'm >
> not even going to start on that crackhead
> Michael Irvin. Your boy Tony >
> Romo is from Wisconsin too. It would also seem
> to me that "your" Braves >
> won the 1957 World Series over the New York
> Yankees before Atlanta stole >
> them from Milwaukee. No flame, just facts,
> there you go.
> > 
> > Tom Pier
> > Proud Wisconsinite
> > 
> > >>> "Breeden, Sara" 09/18/07 1:03 PM >>>
> > I've been quiet lately, mainly because as my
> vacation approaches (3
> > days!), all **** is breaking loose (that
> happens when one is the Only
> > histotech). However, this Football Thing has
> gotten my attention. No
> > one has said anything about America's Team -
> the Dallas Cowboys! Now,
> > ya'll just have a big ol' time flaming me
> because my skin is so thick
> > from years of totally unwarranted abuse by
> lesser teams' fans that you
> > can't hurt me. Besides, I've given up that
> highly overrated physical
> > sport for the real sport of BASEBALL - where
> stealth and cunning mean so
> > much more. Go Braves!! I was further sure of
> my Sports Choice last
> > year when my friend Linda Blazek and I paid
> way too much money for two
> > tickets to see the D-Backs in PHX. But we had
> great seats! So, give me
> > your best shot and I'll try to remember I
> asked for it... Vacation
> > cures almost everything...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP)
> > 
> > NM Dept. of Agriculture
> > 
> > Veterinary Diagnostic Services
> > 
> > PO Box 4700
> > 
> > Albuquerque, NM 87106
> > 
> > 505-841-2576
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:59:22 -0700
From: "Robert Garhart" <rgarhart <@t> system1.net>
Subject: [Histonet] Need Your Help to Find a Cytology Supervisor
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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I know this is Histonet but I wanted to see if you could help me.  I am
looking for the following:

Position: Cytology Supervisor with FISH experience.  Would be involved
in the selection and addition of new installations as a well backed lab
continues to grow.  Great growth opportunities as this lab continues to
expand.  

Location:  NJ 

Please pass this along to any cytology supervisors you know or point me
in the direction of a similar listserve if you know of one for the
Cytology side of things.   

Thanks for your help.  

Robert Garhart
Executive Recruiter
System 1 Search
678-342-9029 Office
rgarhart <@t> system1.net
Website: www.system1.net

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:13:24 -0600
From: "Inman, Anna" <Anna.Inman <@t> stmarygj.org>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Need Your Help to Find a Cytology Supervisor
To: "Robert Garhart" <rgarhart <@t> system1.net>,
	<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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We are also looking for a Cytology Supervisor (no FISH experience
required) 

In Grand Junction, Colorado.  

Great question  - Is there a listserv for Cytology? 

Thank you! 

Anna Inman

SMH Pathology

(970)244-7098

Anna.Inman <@t> stmarygj.org

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Garhart
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:59 AM
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Need Your Help to Find a Cytology Supervisor

I know this is Histonet but I wanted to see if you could help me.  I am

looking for the following:

Position: Cytology Supervisor with FISH experience.  Would be involved

in the selection and addition of new installations as a well backed lab

continues to grow.  Great growth opportunities as this lab continues to

expand.  

Location:  NJ 

Please pass this along to any cytology supervisors you know or point me

in the direction of a similar listserve if you know of one for the

Cytology side of things.   

Thanks for your help.  

Robert Garhart

Executive Recruiter

System 1 Search

678-342-9029 Office

rgarhart <@t> system1.net

Website: www.system1.net

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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:28:48 -0500
From: "Douglas D Deltour" <doug <@t> ppspath.com>
Subject: [Histonet] What are those things called?
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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I am looking for the "cold bath" or whatever they are called for frozen
sectioning. They are the things that you put the 2-methyl butane in to
freeze the molds. Any idea on who carries them? Thanks. 

Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)

Histology Manager

Professional Pathology Services, PC

One Science Court

Suite 200

Columbia, SC 29203

Office (803)252-1913

Fax (803)254-3262

Doug <@t> ppspath.com 

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:50:19 +0100
From: "Marshall Terry Dr,	Consultant Histopathologist"
	<Terry.Marshall <@t> rothgen.nhs.uk>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Re: Lymph node fixative/enhance solutions
To: "Robert Richmond" <RSRICHMOND <@t> aol.com>,
	<histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Our associated teaching hospital uses xylene to clear the fat for nodes.
Has anybody experience of this?

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Robert
Richmond
Sent: 11 September 2007 18:53
To: histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Re: Lymph node fixative/enhance solutions

Cindi Robinson, HT (ASCP) in South Dakota asks:

>>Our pathologists would like us to start using a solution to help
with the dissection and identification of lymph nodes at gross. - We do
use Pen-Fix but it doesn't dissolve the fat like the paths would like.<<

And Dana Dittus at Polysciences notes:
>>Polysciences,Inc manufactures Hartmanns Fixative which turns lymph
nodes white. For more info see www.polysciences.com   <<

It's easy and cheap to prepare Davidson's fixative (same as Hartmann's
fixative) - mix 3 parts water, 3 parts reagent alcohol, 2 parts strong
(37%) formalin, not the buffered kind, and 1 part glacial acetic acid.
Color it with eosin if you want to.

When Dr. William Hartmann (later the chair of the American Board of
Pathology) was at Johns Hopkins in the early 1960's, Dr. Victor McCusick
(the medical geneticist, later chair of medicine at Hopkins) asked him
to introduce the fixative for Barr bodies (sex chromatin
bodies) that Moore and Barr had specified in their original articles on
Barr bodies around 1954. Moore and Barr specified "modified Davidson's
fixative", which Bill Hartmann introduced. It came into rather
widespread use at Hopkins, and Hartmann's name stuck to it. I think the
name should not be used, because of possible disastrous confusion with
Hartmann's solution, lactated Ringer's solution, introduced into
pediatric practice in the 1930's by Dr. Alexis Hartmann Sr. at
Washington University in St.Louis. Dr. Alexis Hartmann was one of my
clinical teachers, right before he retired around 1964 (sorry about all
this name dropping).

John Kiernan and I discussed Davidson's fixative in this forum several
years ago. He noted that it is not really a rational formula. He hoped
to have the time to research the fixative in Davidson's papers, since it
seems never to have been published.

Getting back to the actual subject, I've used Dissect Aid (Decal
Corporation) with good results - got a bottle of it on the shelf right
now, in fact. In my brief experience with Penn-Fix, it did not disclose
lymph nodes well.

Let me support your pathologists very strongly in this endeavor. Just
one positive lymph node upstages a colon cancer and makes chemotherapy
mandatory. And in colon cancer, those postive lymph nodes can be the
size of pinheads.

Bob Richmond
Samurai Pathologist
Knoxville TN

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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:54:31 +0000
From: koellingr <@t> comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Histonet] OT threads
To: "louise renton" <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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OT threads do not bother me one way or the other.  I just shake my head, ignore and move on to more important things.  But I am curious as a biologist, not even counting the talk of CLIA, CAP or HT topics and just counting OT since the inception of the HistoNet regarding guns, Dieties, parties, personal insults, perversions, political incorrectness, recipes, ponds, lakes, scams, vacations, tirades, sexual innuendo, firings, football/soccer, scoldings and multiple topics too difficult to categorize, someone has several hundred fingers, possibly 500, on just one hand?

dull Ray Koelling
PhenoPath Labs
Seattle, WA

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "louise renton" <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com> 

> You know a little tolerance goes a long way. 
> 
> In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the 
> fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course. 
> Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion. 
> 
> Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when CLIA, 
> CAP or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at 
> length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries. So come on 
> guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All work 
> & no play makes Jack a dull boy" 
> 
> 
> 
> Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)* 
> * do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety 
> officers, CAP, JHCO, etc 
> 
> 
> Bone Research Unit 
> University of the Witwatersrand 
> Johannesburg 
> South Africa 
> "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls". 
> George Carlin 
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. 
> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> _______________________________________________ 
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:54:47 -0500
From: "Douglas D Deltour" <doug <@t> ppspath.com>
Subject: RE: {SPAM?} [Histonet] What are those things called?
To: <histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Never mind I found it. I hate it when I do that.  

Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)
Histology Manager
Professional Pathology Services, PC
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Suite 200
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Subject: {SPAM?} [Histonet] What are those things called?

I am looking for the "cold bath" or whatever they are called for frozen
sectioning. They are the things that you put the 2-methyl butane in to
freeze the molds. Any idea on who carries them? Thanks. 

Douglas D. Deltour HT(ASCP)

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:16:23 -0500
From: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Commentary
To: "histonet" <histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
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I see by some of the comments that recent topics have upset some people. It is a sad day when we take ourselves so seriously that we can not diverse for a day or two. We work hard day in and day out and with the high quality and time constraints, we are constantly under pressure.
    Is it so bad to stop and smell the roses once in a while? Ninety-nine per cent of the Histonet does deal with histology. Is it so bad to once in a while to talk about something else such as recipes, football, dresses or perfumes?
    As a manager, I encourage my techs and students to develop interests outside of histology. See, I didn't take my own advice and became so burnt out that I had to quit my job and take the summer off. This was evident when I had 7 1/2 weeks of vacation on the books.
    I have learned a lot from this forum and hopefully I have given some instruction back. This includes histology and non-histology topics.  Let's lighten up a bit, it's healthy.

Joe Nocito BS, PA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
San Antonio, TX

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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:18:44 -0500
From: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] OT threads
To: <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>, <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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hey,
I'm not dull

JTT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Kapler" <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads

> I'm a Student (Mature Student) taking my courses as I work two jobs (one 
> in
> Histology), so I find Histonet as one of the best resources for 
> information
> related to my area of study.
>
> But I am also a major NFL fan. I enjoy a discussion from time to time on 
> my
> favorite Sport, or even some of my favorite music.
>
> As stated below, "all work makes joe a dull boy" is not only true, it also
> leads to burnout and neurosis. Therefore, in MODERATION, a little off 
> topic
> discussion can go a long way to easing our daily stress. But Moderation is
> the key. Keep it to a single thread. And remind people its off topic.
>
> Maybe that would help... maybe it won't ... but that's my two cents today
>
> Joe "DarkWolfe" Kapler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Laurie
> Reilly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:06 AM
> To: 'louise renton'; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> Good for you ,Louise. OT, in moderation, is fine by me.
>
> Regards,  Laurie.
>
> Mr. Laurie REILLY
> Histopathology
> School of  Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
> James Cook University
> Townsville  Qld.  4811
> Australia.
>
> Phone 07 4781 4468
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise
> renton
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:23 PM
> To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> You know a little tolerance goes a long way.
>
> In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the
> fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course.
> Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.
>
> Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when 
> CLIA,
> CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at
> length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come on
> guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All 
> work
> & no play makes Jack  a dull boy"
>
>
>
> Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
> * do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety
> officers, CAP, JHCO, etc
>
>
> Bone Research Unit
> University of the Witwatersrand
> Johannesburg
> South Africa
> "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".
> George Carlin
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:21:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Woody <slappycraw <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] OT threads
To: koellingr <@t> comcast.net, louise renton <louise.renton <@t> gmail.com>,
	Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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I think they are counting hanging chads.

koellingr <@t> comcast.net wrote:  OT threads do not bother me one way or the other. I just shake my head, ignore and move on to more important things. But I am curious as a biologist, not even counting the talk of CLIA, CAP or HT topics and just counting OT since the inception of the HistoNet regarding guns, Dieties, parties, personal insults, perversions, political incorrectness, recipes, ponds, lakes, scams, vacations, tirades, sexual innuendo, firings, football/soccer, scoldings and multiple topics too difficult to categorize, someone has several hundred fingers, possibly 500, on just one hand?

dull Ray Koelling
PhenoPath Labs
Seattle, WA

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "louise renton" 

> You know a little tolerance goes a long way. 
> 
> In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the 
> fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course. 
> Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion. 
> 
> Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when CLIA, 
> CAP or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed at 
> length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries. So come on 
> guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage "All work 
> & no play makes Jack a dull boy" 
> 
> 
> 
> Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)* 
> * do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety 
> officers, CAP, JHCO, etc 
> 
> 
> Bone Research Unit 
> University of the Witwatersrand 
> Johannesburg 
> South Africa 
> "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls". 
> George Carlin 
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. 
> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 
> _______________________________________________ 
> Histonet mailing list 
> Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
> http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet 
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Woody <slappycraw <@t> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Commentary
To: Joe Nocito <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>, histonet
	<histonet <@t> pathology.swmed.edu>
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Agreed Joe, it's called work/life balance but when your work is your life like so many people in America, it's impossible to achieve balance.

Joe Nocito <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com> wrote:   I see by some of the comments that recent topics have upset some people. It is a sad day when we take ourselves so seriously that we can not diverse for a day or two. We work hard day in and day out and with the high quality and time constraints, we are constantly under pressure.
Is it so bad to stop and smell the roses once in a while? Ninety-nine per cent of the Histonet does deal with histology. Is it so bad to once in a while to talk about something else such as recipes, football, dresses or perfumes?
As a manager, I encourage my techs and students to develop interests outside of histology. See, I didn't take my own advice and became so burnt out that I had to quit my job and take the summer off. This was evident when I had 7 1/2 weeks of vacation on the books.
I have learned a lot from this forum and hopefully I have given some instruction back. This includes histology and non-histology topics. Let's lighten up a bit, it's healthy.

Joe Nocito BS, PA, HT(ASCP)QIHC
San Antonio, TX
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:25:47 +0100
From: "Edwards, R.E." <ree3 <@t> leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OTT threads
To: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>, <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>,
	<Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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Perhaps, just  a touch  opaque?. 

-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe
Nocito
Sent: 19 September 2007 14:19
To: drkwolfe <@t> telus.net; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] OT threads

hey,
I'm not dull

JTT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Kapler" <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads

> I'm a Student (Mature Student) taking my courses as I work two jobs
(one 
> in
> Histology), so I find Histonet as one of the best resources for 
> information
> related to my area of study.
>
> But I am also a major NFL fan. I enjoy a discussion from time to time
on 
> my
> favorite Sport, or even some of my favorite music.
>
> As stated below, "all work makes joe a dull boy" is not only true, it
also
> leads to burnout and neurosis. Therefore, in MODERATION, a little off 
> topic
> discussion can go a long way to easing our daily stress. But
Moderation is
> the key. Keep it to a single thread. And remind people its off topic.
>
> Maybe that would help... maybe it won't ... but that's my two cents
today
>
> Joe "DarkWolfe" Kapler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Laurie
> Reilly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:06 AM
> To: 'louise renton'; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> Good for you ,Louise. OT, in moderation, is fine by me.
>
> Regards,  Laurie.
>
> Mr. Laurie REILLY
> Histopathology
> School of  Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
> James Cook University
> Townsville  Qld.  4811
> Australia.
>
> Phone 07 4781 4468
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise
> renton
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:23 PM
> To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> You know a little tolerance goes a long way.
>
> In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the
> fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course.
> Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.
>
> Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when 
> CLIA,
> CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed
at
> length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come
on
> guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage
"All 
> work
> & no play makes Jack  a dull boy"
>
>
>
> Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
> * do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety
> officers, CAP, JHCO, etc
>
>
> Bone Research Unit
> University of the Witwatersrand
> Johannesburg
> South Africa
> "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".
> George Carlin
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:25:53 -0500
From: "Hofecker, Jennifer L" <jennifer.l.hofecker <@t> Vanderbilt.Edu>
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads (Joe's not dull)
To: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>,
	<Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
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	<898D946569A27444B65667A49C074052F7296A <@t> mailbe06.mc.vanderbilt.edu>
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I'll second that! Joe and "dull" in the same sentence, that's a first.
Oh, man - Now I've jumped into OT land, too! Joe, look what you made me
do :)

Looking for flame retardant suit...
Jennifer
-----Original Message-----
From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Joe
Nocito
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:19 AM
To: drkwolfe <@t> telus.net; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] OT threads

hey,
I'm not dull

JTT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joseph Kapler" <drkwolfe <@t> telus.net>
To: <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 4:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads

> I'm a Student (Mature Student) taking my courses as I work two jobs 
> (one
> in
> Histology), so I find Histonet as one of the best resources for 
> information
> related to my area of study.
>
> But I am also a major NFL fan. I enjoy a discussion from time to time 
> on
> my
> favorite Sport, or even some of my favorite music.
>
> As stated below, "all work makes joe a dull boy" is not only true, it 
> also leads to burnout and neurosis. Therefore, in MODERATION, a little

> off topic discussion can go a long way to easing our daily stress. But

> Moderation is the key. Keep it to a single thread. And remind people 
> its off topic.
>
> Maybe that would help... maybe it won't ... but that's my two cents 
> today
>
> Joe "DarkWolfe" Kapler
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Laurie

> Reilly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:06 AM
> To: 'louise renton'; Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: RE: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> Good for you ,Louise. OT, in moderation, is fine by me.
>
> Regards,  Laurie.
>
> Mr. Laurie REILLY
> Histopathology
> School of  Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences
> James Cook University
> Townsville  Qld.  4811
> Australia.
>
> Phone 07 4781 4468
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> [mailto:histonet-bounces <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of louise

> renton
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 September 2007 5:23 PM
> To: Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] OT threads
>
> You know a little tolerance goes a long way.
>
> In the many years since the inception of Histonet, I can count on the 
> fingers of one hand how many times the threads have gone off course. 
> Whether or not they stay on course is a matter of opinion.
>
> Should European, Australians & South Africans all jump up & down when
> CLIA,
> CAP  or HT accreditation & state licensure is mentioned and discussed
at
> length? This has no bearing on histology in these countries.  So come
on
> guys, lighten up & put things into perspective. Remember the adage
"All 
> work
> & no play makes Jack  a dull boy"
>
>
>
> Louise Renton (in asbestos suit)*
> * do not try this in your lab without prior consultation with safety 
> officers, CAP, JHCO, etc
>
>
> Bone Research Unit
> University of the Witwatersrand
> Johannesburg
> South Africa
> "There are nights when the wolves are silent and only the moon howls".

> George Carlin No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> _______________________________________________
> Histonet mailing list
> Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:27:31 -0500
From: "Joe Nocito" <jnocito <@t> satx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Floor in a pathology laboratory
To: "Gayle Callis" <gcallis <@t> montana.edu>, "Rene J Buesa"
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I had some carpets like this and is was a bear to work with in the embedding 
area. The wheels of the chairs kept causing the carpet to rise up, causing a 
tripping hazard. Anyone else experience this? By the microtomes, the carpet 
worked fine.

JTT
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From: "Gayle Callis" <gcallis <@t> montana.edu>
To: "Rene J Buesa" <rjbuesa <@t> yahoo.com>; <Histonet <@t> lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Floor in a pathology laboratory

I agree with Rene.  We also have commerical rugs (heavy duty, very low
carpet, inexpensive, and are the kind found in entry ways of
buildings).  We place these in front of microtome areas, sinks and
processor, chairs roll on them without resistance.    They can be vacuumed
to pick up paraffin shavings, and when eventually trashed, merely
replaced.   We had an incident on a hard floor, as paraffin seems to
permeate and coat all surfaces.  A visiting post doc slipped, and if he
hadn't grabbed a door handle, would have cracked back of his skull on our
hard floor.  Our janitors here would NEVER think to mop a floor, but they
do vacuum these little carpets.    Perhaps clinical labs have better
regulations for cleaning histology lab areas than our research facility ( I
work in a double wide trailer house! also called a modular) has available.

If you can't use carpets, then consider the sticky peel a away mats under
your microtoming areas, this catches trimmings that seem to fly around
willy nilly, no matter what one does. These are also used at entry ways of
areas where dust, dirt and/or prion associated work is done.

Be sure you ask for acid resistant sinks, that are large, deep and enough
of them to do the work necessary, staining, grossing areas, etc, etc.  A
lab with two sinks like ours is NOT a good situation.  Also, ask that the
the microtoming area has decent bright lighting and NO air vents just about
the microtome area.

Good luck and congratulations on being able to design a new laboratory.

At 02:14 PM 9/18/2007, you wrote:
>Chemicals resistant, anti-slip, and ascrubbable to eliminate paraffin.
>   René J.
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Gayle Callis
MT,HT,HTL(ASCP)
Research Histopathology Supervisor
Veterinary Molecular Biology
Montana State University - Bozeman
PO Box 173610
Bozeman MT 59717-3610

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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 09:32:35 -0400
From: "Judy Collins" <JCollins <@t> palmbeachpath.com>
Subject: [Histonet] Off Topic
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>From my perspective, my company pays my salary to do histology and I use
the histonet during work hours because it is histology related. My
stress relief needs to be on my own time.  Therefore, I think the
non-histology chatter should be kept to minimum.  A couple of comments
are one thing, but sometimes it is excessive.

Judy Collins
Palm Beach Pathology

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